Mickey 17
The novel this film was based on; Mickey 7 was being written by Edward Ashton, at almost exactly same time as the film back in 2021. Director Bong Joon Ho saw an opportunity and ran with it to create something pertinent, meaningful and as always, very weird… What remains then to answer is why the film version has solidly 10 more Mickeys!? Why do we need SO many more Mickeys?
Robert Pattinson is Mickey 1-17 and in fact Mickey 18 as well… and his life…lives are the subject of this funny, poignant and occasionally silly film Science Fiction film.
The whole team is in here, with Jill 41, Peta 99, Dion X and Quinny -3. With all their accumulated knowledge you’d hope they could say something intelligent here. And you would be right!
Synopsis
Adapted from the novel Mickey7 by Edward Ashton, this stars Robert Pattinson as an “expendable” – a disposable crew member on a space mission, selected for dangerous tasks because he can be renewed if his body dies, with his memories largely intact. With one regeneration, though, things go very wrong.
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Transcript Dion Hello and welcome to the periodic table of awesome. On 25. Quinny What number I? Dion Yeah, what? What number do you want to be? Peta Picked a random one. Dion Yeah, yeah. Peter, one there, you. I’m going to be Dion, 25, and you go introduce yourselves tonight because I’m lazy. Speaker Oh wow. So there we go. Yeah. Yep, Yep. Dion Oh, there. Great. Quinny It’s just what number are you? Jill Me. I’m. I’m Jill 40. Because I die a little each year. Dion Well, it is. Quinny Jesus Christ. Dion It is kind of dark. OK 20. Number are you up to? Quinny -3. Speaker What exactly? Quinny Dion Me just like 3 multiple. How many? Thank you. Peta I mean, based on Jill’s logic, I think I’m about 99. Dion Peter, 99, again Jill, 41, Dion, 25, and quinny -3 to be * ****. Quinny No, I just because that’s where I’m from. From. It’s always -3 in liaweni. Protect the minion gag for you anyway. Speaker Is it? Quinny Not from my area. Sorry, I’m not, but it’s still there’s three Tasmanians who listen to this. Thought that was very funny. Dion Yeah, well, it is about a cold, merciless planet full of weird, weird, weird. Creatures kind of like. Jill The spoiler alert. Our numbers are our. For later. Dion Oh wow. Quinny Serious thinking now. Speaker 2 Oh. Dion How hateful. Yeah. Well, what are we doing? Someone explain to me what’s what’s this movie that we’re talking about? What? What? What is this? Speaker 2 You’re. You’re so. You’re fine, man. Hey, Mickey. Hey, Mickey. Dion And it’s not the. Jill Oh, Mickey, say. Peta Are you gonna do that 17 Times Now? Like that’ll take a while, yeah. Dion I’m. I’m I’m I’m just warning you. Will be a. It’s a very Tony Basil heavy show tonight. Quinny Yeah, yeah. You’re not getting away from that song. Dion At any opportunity? No. Jill So it’s a docu biopic about the making of the video clip for hey Nikki. Quinny Oh my God, this is this is. There’s going to be so much digging in this. Dion A ducky diet. Quinny Going to be so full of meaning, no. We’re. The new Bong Joon Ho film Mickey 17, which is based on a book which is called Mickey’s 7. Why there’s an extra 10 in the film, I don’t really know. Dion Because they gave them, they gave them more opportunity to come up with interesting. Jill Sound of snappier? Who knows? Dion And disgusting deaths for their lead character, Robert Pattinsky. Peta I mean my. Jill Having instructed staff. Peta Friend jokes was much better than that. Dion Well. Fair. I mean I am D on 25. Comedy gets worse every. Peta 4 diminishing returns has really come down hard on. Dion Yes, yes it has. Quinny That’s why I’m -3 because I’m still mint. Jill They keep forgetting to upload the memories back to Dion when he gets reprinted. He keeps doing the same analogies. Dion Over and over again. And they’re. They just filled it in with AI garbage. Peta ****. Quinny You know, that’s something liked about. This is the idea that like, yeah, there are at least two or three versions where they’ve reprinted Mickey and they haven’t perhaps printed him, right. Like, you know, they’ve accidentally knocked out a cable on one of the sites. One of the printings. Like maybe, maybe he’s not exactly the same as the Mickey that started. Dion We’ll get there. I mean, you know, we’ve still got a lot of of things to do. Doing Mickey 17, which we got to go and see. It last week. Speaker Yeah. Dion But you did. Quinny And Peter and I went. Saw it on Sunday. Dion Oh wow. Peta Awesome fresh. Dion Technically, you know, but I start my week on a Monday, so. You know, OK. But it came out. Yeah, we’ve been seeing it. Jill So we all came out last week, yes. Dion Yeah, yeah. The important part is the homework was done. All did the homework. Yes, we’ve all watched. It’s out. You can go and see it too. Quinny Yes, and what a strange little film it is. I’m fascinated to know where you all at with Bong Joon Ho. Jill Hated snow, piercer loved parasite. Quinny Right. Jill Didn’t watch opja because. Animals. Quinny Yeah. Jill We’re ordering animals like I like bacon. Dion Did you watch parasite in between seeing Mickey 17 and now? Jill I maybe watched it last night. Dion Good because yeah. Jill Because I hadn’t done. And for some weird reason, I thought it was based on a horror manga, but it’s completely not. No, there’s a horror maker called Parasite, and I thought that’s what the movie was about and the poster has, like, everyone with redacted eyes. Speaker Jill Thought it was like some weird horror film, but. Dion Sure. I mean. Jill It’s not. Dion I’m just glad because, like when Jill and I went into last week, it’s like, oh, I haven’t seen parasite now. Like what? Get get the E to a nunnery. Quinny Sorry, I haven’t seen parasite either. Jill Oh well, it’s on Netflix. You should have watched it last night. Quinny Peta Before you ask that question. Yeah, exactly. Dion You haven’t even seen the Sound of Music. Speaker Yeah. Jill Well, come on, -3. Quinny Jill Quinny Movie memories of Murder that came out in 2003 and. Speaker 2 It was. Quinny Yeah. I think one of his first films, one of his first big successful. Sorry, his first film that I can see is barking dogs never bite, which I’ve never seen. But yeah, we’ve done a pretty good line on Director Bong. We’ve watched so back in before the times back before periodic table of awesome, there was another podcast called The Tube. And as a part of that, one of the people really loved Korean film and so. Surprisingly, a lot more Bong Joon Ho than I ever thought I. Going to, there you go. So yeah, we’ve watched memories of murder and mother and the host. And then, yeah, a few years later, he kind of. Dion Well. Quinny We didn’t see that much for him for a while, and then Octura and Snowpiercer and all that sort of stuff came out. So yes, I’ve watched a lot of bond drama. Like his stuff. Dion So you’re in, you’re in an aficiado Ben Quinney, right? Quinny The 100’s really great. Yes, yes. Dion Peter, have you seen many Bong Joon Joon Ho films? Speaker Yes. Peta I mean parasite. Maybe Snowpiercer and then I erase it from my memory? Not sure. Dion Sure. Yeah, don’t get. It’s not the flicks television show. Peta I’m I’m I’m I’m neutral. I’m neutral on the issue. Dion Neutral run. I don’t have. Quinny So you you really hated to know Pierce. Jill. Jill Yeah, I I. Look, it’s been so long since I’ve watched. I don’t remember why I hated it, but it just. Didn’t work for me. Dion Is that because Chris Evans wasn’t doing good things in that film? Speaker Yeah. Jill I think he was. Fine in the. I don’t think I I didn’t enjoy the premise. Speaker Dion Right, not enough. Shots in that film for Chris Evans. Jill Don’t reduce me to my face level there. Speaker Ariana. Dion Lizard brain, Jill. Jill The silent green of it all. Dion Right, right. Fair enough it. It was actually supposed to be more. Do you remember that scene in snipers? And it’s been out for a while, so I’m going to say it anyway. When they opened it up and it was just bugs being all crushed up. It was actually supposed to be the people in from the back of the Karen. Jill Yeah. No, I assumed that. Quinny Yeah, yeah, I was figured that that was kind of where they were going. Dion But it was like, oh man, that’s terrible. Quinny That idea. Jill Yeah, because there. I’m pretty sure there was a line in it where he talked about eating. Babies. Dion Oh yeah, definitely was. Look, Peter leday. Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah. Jill PETA has a rice to for very particular reason. Peta Yeah, I’m starting to think maybe I. Haven’t seen it. Speaker Oh. Quinny Yeah, you don’t train lots of snows. Peta You are not living much. Dion They don’t actually eat a baby on screen. They just talked about it as a as a trauma. It’s fine. Peta There are weird amount of films that actually take place on trains, so like I genuinely can’t remember. If it was the ones I’ve seen. Speaker This. Quinny There’s also the confusion that there’s a a series that ran for how many seasons? There’s. Beers as well. Dion It’s still going. Speaker 4 Hang on, hang on, hang on. Quinny Is it still for cancellation? Speaker 1 It’s still going. Jill After 2. Dion I thought it was like on Series 5. I don’t know. Quinny I think it got cancelled and then got re picked up. Dion It. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Quinny And I’m just now looking it up. Because like I watched a little bit of it, mostly because I really liked David Diggs. I think he’s a ******* great actor, but yeah, didn’t get into the show as much, even though it has Jennifer Connelly in it. I’m I’m all about her. Four Seasons. Yeah. *** ****. Dion Yeah, that’s what I was talking about. Was like, let’s go. Jill How do we realize it? Keep going. Dion Yeah, the last season just came out last year. Jill There you go. Dion Anyway, that’s what I’m talking about. We’re talking about Miki 17. Apart from that, I haven’t like he’s he’s a little thing. Watched maybe 10 minutes of. I just didn’t get around to it. And I’ve seen parasite and I saw the host which I thought was great and I totally do not remember seeing mother or the other one. Were talking about memories of murder, memories about. Speaker I have. Jill The Sandra 01. Speaker Oh. Dion No, it wasn’t the other one. What’s his name? Arnold. Quinny Oh, no, not you’re thinking of nothing. Peta Not the roseburn 1. Quinny Yeah, mother, with an exclamation mark as opposed to just mother. Jill Oh. No, that’s the Jennifer Lawrence one. Quinny Yeah. Jill No, not that. Wasn’t there, Sandra? Oh, this movie about a mother. Peta Maybe he’s like, oh gosh. Dion We’re getting very. We need to be talking about Nikki. Speaker Yes, Sir. Off topic. Dion Let’s talk about Mickey 17. First of all, we need to go all the way back to talk about Robert Pattinson in Twilight. Speaker 2 Sorry Sir anyway. Dion Twilight was a series. Jill Look, I have no respect. Peta I’ve been going to go all the way back. Jill I have, in retrospect, an argument that Robert Pattinson was doing genius acting in twilight because there was a book that was not released at the time that was given to him that was called. Midnight sun. It’s it’s all of twilight from Edward’s perspective, where he is like a sociopath. And so I feel like he was playing twilight. Edward. As from the perspective of this book, and we just. Speaker 1 Didn’t know it well, much like. Dion Large franchise lead male cast who get the role too early and then somewhat become pigeon holed. Robert Pattinson is giving the full Daniel Radcliffe. Speaker Yes. Dion By by having a go at just weird ****. Yes. Peta I mean that there is like, he’s my love of Robert Pattinson. Being weird is is really only slightly secondary to my love of Daniel Radcliffe being weird. So I’m always there for a ride. Quinny Pattinson hasn’t done like as much stripping and as much weird dancing as as Radcliffe. Radcliffe. Dion He also hasn’t. He also hasn’t played a dead body that moves around in the ocean with his flatulence. Speaker Has. Quinny True, that is true. He has played Batman, which many would say is similar. Dion Yes. Yeah. Peta I also feel like he lets the weird leak into his real life a lot more than Daniel does. Significantly more than down to the Dallas. Speaker Yes. Peta That’s fine. Quinny I do love those. Peta Is there an interesting interview? Speaker Thank you. Quinny They both came out of Harry Potter land. You know, both managed to escape the Goblet of fire. Speaker Sea drink. Peta Well. Dion Did he though? Quinny He’s referring to the franchise. Peta Do you know who he? Jill Was in seven films and one was in one, yeah. Dion Yes. And then there was that. The father of that. Like my boy, they’ve killed my boy. Do you remember this at all? Quinny I do. Yes, I was referring to the Goblet of fire as the franchise. As you know, the Harry Potter franchise, which is now a bit of a gobbledy. Dion Oh, OK, not the actual. Quinny Galous you know? Speaker 4 Oh. Quinny You know, I was being literary. Dion Don’t worry, they’re. It so it all blow over. Peta It was the. Character for which that wouldn’t have worked. Speaker Yeah. Quinny I’m trying so hard. Dion I know you. What is Mickey 17 about though? Quinny Dion The thing all of segue into that. Quinny Right, what? Beautiful. What accent do you? Because there’s, there’s whatever the **** Mickey 17’s accent is. Jill Well, our Pats was doing a pittsburghian accent, apparently so. Dion Jill’s inside. That one. Jill Yeah. Quinny Wow, OK. Dion Did you want some background music there? Quinny. While you think about your accent. Quinny Yes, yes, you did accent time. Dion Yep. Yeah, yeah, yeah. As a famous song from Pittsburgh, this is the one that I’m going to be playing for everyone. Quinny I think it’s gonna be. Generic American with his weird ******* voice. All I’ve got no, sorry. Speaker Speaker 2 Nah, I’ll adapted from the novel Mickey 7 by Edward Ashton, this Robert Pattinson. Started as an expendable. Disposable crew member on a space mission. Speaker And. Speaker 2 He’s selected for dangerous tasks because he can be renewed or reprinted or whatever. If his body dies with his memories largely intact. Speaker No. Speaker 2 With one regeneration, though, things do go very wrong, and I meet #18, who’s * **** and turns out that things are not as smooth as smooth as all that. Jill Wow, that was on *****. Speaker Yes. It’s actually not bad. Quinny Well, we heard. Lot of him in the film. Dion Yeah, yeah, dear. Quinny Thanks I. I will take the compliment of it being either uncanny. Not bad. Dion I’m I’m unsure. Peta We have like, an entire emote for **** accent. Not. Is is quite confident. Dion Yeah, part of Kanga busted at like 3 **** accents and then just kind of went, oh, I think that’s all we know. Is actually not bad like I feel like I’m safe this. This is good. Speaker Not expecting. Dion Yeah. Peta I first saw the. For this. My first thought in like what? In the uncanny valley. Why does this look like the Robert Pattinson we got on? Like. Speaker 2 This is this is not. Speaker Not. Quinny The real Robert Pattinson. Dion You know, there’s a bunch of scenes. Peta I’ve been having Tyler going. You said Robert Pattinson. Just somebody who looks like him. What is going on? I don’t know what they did with his hair makeup. Costuming to make him look just that little bit extra odd. Quinny Even they really played up the broken nose of it. Peta So now with the echo I’ve now also got Plains. Oh great. Really, lifting the audio game here. Dion Yeah, you’re right. Quinny We can’t hear the plane. Fine. Speaker 2 We can only hear you. Speaker Yeah. Quinny Yeah, I noticed for the first time more than. Like the his his nose. And like his, he looked like he had quite a significant broken nose a few times and I was like. He he definitely didn’t look as pretty as he has. Dion Well, you know. Speaker I thought he looked. Dion Great. Like I saw the trailer when it. Out. I had a lot of like Pep and Zing and energy, and it was a new thing. And I was like, oh, this is great. Then I saw the film and I’m like that trailer lied to me a little. It did not lie to me as much as the trailer for drive, which was not the exciting film that everyone thought it was going to be. But this one was was kind of like, oh, that looks like fun. Like, you know, kind of going. This is not. Well, it’s kind of a. Film, but it’s more of a there. Peta Are there are lots? Fun elements to the film, yeah. Dion Sure. But it’s not that. Quinny It’s not a fun film. Peta It’s fun to be had. Yeah, yeah. Quinny Yeah. Peta It is a comedy. We laughed. Jill It was. All the way through. Quinny Yeah, yeah, I laughed a lot. Speaker Yeah. Dion Oh, that’s. I mean this is. I also want to say like I enjoyed Mickey 17 from a perspective of Robert Pattinson’s physical comedy that I was not expecting. Because. That was the most unexpected and pleasant thing that came out because we’ve seen. Do you know his breeding teenage heartthrob years and now his action man Batman years? And now it’s like, Oh my God, it’s a very good physical comedian. ‘Cause he fully commits to the bit and I was like this is amazing. And this is all good. Peta But even as I wouldn’t call him action man for Batman, he’s more emotive at really. Dion Are you kidding? I think I think he beat people. I didn’t know because it was very dark and I couldn’t see anything actually happening. So and his face was never really there, but I believe that he was beating people up instead of giving his money to programs that could prevent wealth inequality anyway. Peta I’ve read the physical comedy. The physical comedy was great. I both laughed, but we were the only people in the cinema laughing at several points. Quinny Doesn’t mean that really concerned me. Dion Were you the only people in the cinema? At all. Quinny No, no, it’s ’cause I was thinking. Peta Space who? Quinny Yeah, there were quite a few times, especially when he’s being printed. Every time he. He. I laughed. Speaker 2 Oh. Dion Yeah, I was laughing too, especially. Jill There’s a great gag because like the old days. Old inkjets? Go. And then, yeah. Peta Oh my God, none of the other people in the cinema had seen an inject printer. Jill Full of Gen. Z. Peta No, I just realised that we would probably be all. People there. Quinny Yeah, yeah. Nobody else had ever seen a printer got. Speaker Yeah. Jill I didn’t get the gag. Speaker Yeah. Dion It’s like the. It’s like it’s like people saying old films of someone’s using a typewriter and then like, why are they hitting it? Quinny Like, just slapping some sense in there. Dion It’s like you know. It’s like, oh, I like that. It was great, except why they keep hitting the like keyboard and I’m like I will. Yeah, I can’t explain this to you. Quinny Hmm. Yeah, look, I found it very funny. Like I think it’s got a really weird sense of humor. Like you know, and the sense of humor is just picked up on the whole printer gag now. Yeah. Like the humor is dark, but also like kind of borderline absurdist in a lot of cases. And it’s it’s actors in a lot of cases having a lot of fun playing things real big. Dion Yeah. Quinny But I liked it like the comedy there. There’s other parts about the film I didn’t get into, but the comedy I did find work, I mean. Peta You know, I love some absurd **** like. Quinny And and it had. Dion A lot of different kinds of comedy that was thrown in there because, I mean, I really think there was that little bit of absurdist comedy. The game from Robert Pattinson and then you had like the very scenery, eating comedy being thrown out there by Mark Ruffalo. I feel like Toni Collette was almost criminally underused because she was very. She’s a very funny woman. Peta I mean, it’s trying to. Colette, what are you doing? She’s very funny. Jill I think there’ll be an Oscar nomination for Mark Ruffalo’s veneers next. Quinny Yes, 100%. Speaker 1 Peta Mean. Yeah, but the fact that. Jill Season doing a lot of acting. Peta We’ll leave back that Toni Collette was playing the straightest role in the whole thing was absolutely criminal. Quinny Lead. Speaker Hmm. Peta I found Mark ruffal. Entirely unabashed, Trump. Umm to be kind of hilarious in this context like. Know what? He’s not hiding what he’s doing. It’s like, right. I don’t care. And also like I mean. There are kind of some things that happen in there. Like you really kind of like hit the jackpot when you shot this in terms of how relevant it has now become. Quinny Yeah. Dion I’m. I was just hoping for some sort of Elon Musk metaphor character to be in there and it would have just been perfectly like, yeah, the person in control of the ship on the mission that goes to start a new planet. Quinny Yeah. Speaker Yeah. Dion It would have been just icing on the cake, but they didn’t know they weren’t sooth Sayers. Quinny No. And they they. They got the, they got the religious creepy guy. Who was, you know, always doing the filming? Who? You know, probably a little JD advance, but you know. I mean, you can find parallels where you go looking for them, but in the end like it’s the idea of. A terrible dictator, who in this case has actually done the world a favor by taking a whole bunch of people off the planet. And. Dion Well, a bunch of religious fundamentalists who decided to follow the cult of personality into space to see life on a new land, which is because Earth is ******. No one’s been bothered to do anything about trying to save it, so everyone’s just leaving it. And then experiencing. Whole ideology of humanity running against alien life, which may not look similar to us but has its own complex narrative, and then being able to use that as a justification for. Cultural and societal change because people are getting trodden on. Speaker Mm. Dion That’s a lot of work. Quinny I do want to shout out to Elska Norga, who said that it’s the B arc, so referencing Hitchhiker’s guide to the Galaxy where they just put all of the telephone sanitisers and hairdressers and stuff onto the the B arc and sent them off into space first and said. Catch up with you. Dion OK, now for anyone younger than us watching this right now or listening to it. A phone sanitizer was someone who used to go around and clean handset. On public phone, booze and common use. Because that was necessary because people would put **** all over it. You would have to do that. Peta So for anyone younger than us that’s watching this, a public phone booth. Quinny You didn’t always have a phone in your pocket. Sometimes there was one that you had to walk. Speaker Yeah. Oh Gee. Peta I there was nothing subtle about what this film was saying. You know that sometimes I’m gonna get ****** about that. And sometimes I’m like. Faircl gets absurd. Comedic. It is saying what it’s saying. The Unsubtlety is part of the comedy in this. I was OK with that. Quinny Yeah. Yeah, I also like. Dion Did anyone else feel like the 137 minute runtime probably could have been a real tight 80 minute? Peta We have reached my complaints. Speaker 1 Yeah. Oh, no, no, no, no. Quinny Oh, I love that at least three of us are, like, and now we’re here because we wanted to talk about. Jill I don’t remember it feeling that long. I was just so. I I. Enjoying, like every moment of the movie, I would. The satire was hitting for me, I thought. Was really. The Robert Pattinson was doing an amazing. I liked all of the the side characters. Everyone had like great little character traits and personalities. Quinny I really like Robert Pattinson. Jill And character arcs. Like. Quinny Mariela Robin Pattinson. Jill He’s. Don’t put words in my mouth. I’m not a. Speaker Quinny Really like Robert Pattinson though. Dion Which one? Jill Oh, like 17 times. Hilarious. Good. I did enjoy. I’d like to spoiler alert Mickey 18. I thought the the. Mickey, 18, was a bit of a. And I can’t liked it. Peta I don’t feel like they somehow managed to print Mickey 18 without his trauma. Jill Yeah, it was great. Speaker Well. Quinny It’s going. Peta That was the difference. Dion Back to a little bit earlier when we were talking about. Quinny What I said before. Dion The fact that the Mickey’s sometimes they weren’t people with the scientists weren’t paying attention or something went weird and they accidentally unplug something or did something else. I really like that as a as a quiet metaphor for why they were all slightly differe. Jill Mm. Dion And then, because we never see Mickey 18 actually getting printed out, I wonder what? What? What’s a? What’s a? Jill What went wrong? Dion Yeah. What was the? Did someone spill something on the? Did someone dislodge the? Yeah, yeah, did. Jill Power outage. Dion Did someone turn around and knock the brick out of the machine? It just didn’t like, didn’t print his ******* empathy. Shoved it back in its like, sure, off we go. Quinny But also it had happened. Because Mickey Fire apparently was a **** **** **** too. Speaker Yeah. Quinny You’re like, yeah. Oh, OK. Dion Learning that in through the girlfriend and imagine like. You know. People who are in a relationship that might feel a bit stale, a stale might be alright to have a part, an intimate partner that just keeps getting printed out every now and again just get a new version. Sometimes you might like them and sometimes you. Quinny Might not. Jill I’d quite like the gag, which you found two of them, and. Peta I kind of really. Jill Like oh. Let’s take that box on to the fantasy list. Peta I kind. I really enjoyed how they played that element of the story in the end because it was actually like quite a. Speaker Hi. Peta A sweet little love story. Between her and the Mickey’s, and even that little thing was, I guess, saying something that was quite nice about. Human intimacy and the wholeness of love, I guess for another person or whatever version of them. You get that day. It can all be slightly different versions. Slightly different days, but I like that they kind of leaned into that quite heavily for her character and and what that meant for the plot. I thought it was quite sweet. But yeah. I was having a fun time as. I was like, I was like, this is a fun time. It could have been a fun 90 minute time. It didn’t need to be a fun two hours and 20 minutes, I don’t think. And it kind of feels felt like the plot kept plotting at some point, just to kind of like. I don’t know. Give it kind of like a blockbuster sci-fi feel instead of what it was, which was a Cesaro absurd comedy, and it could have said everything that it said just a little bit. Jill Oh, I just realised what it reminds me of. Reminds me of a Wes Anderson film. You know you have a weird cast of very quirky characters all doing bizarre and and funny things, and like the color palettes were interesting for each scene and. Quinny Yeah. Speaker Yeah. Jill Yeah, it wasn’t like as otterous as was Anderson, but like the quirkiness that you find in film. It’s like what I found prevalent in this movie. Speaker Hmm. Jill Back in my. Quinny Yeah. Jill I’m like, what’s this remind me of? Quinny Yeah, like it’s got the the not the necessarily the visual aesthetic like it doesn’t have that super bright thing, but it has a kind of, yeah, a quirkiness and a willful quirkiness. Speaker No. Quinny I’m. I’m totally with you, Pete, on that whole thing of like. There are there are sections that could have been cut back on. Or like there’s a dinner sequence. Speaker Oh. Jill Yeah. Quinny That I was like ******* this is this is hanging on a bit like really. Peta It was also like an entire character that seemed like she was going to be a big. And then she just completely disappeared for, like, the last half hour of the movie that I thought was really weird. Jill That’s. Dion But that’s because that introduced the Chekhov’s tardigrade. That they did at the same. How do we explain that? Yeah. What is it? Space tetegruates they seem to be like everywhere and fun. You know, by the end of. I like space. Quinny Just feel. Speaker 1 Here we go. Dion Just feel like that. That was a whole movie on itself, like we’re following. Speaker Play. Dion Why are we now on the space tardigrades? This could have been the Mickey sequel, like Mickey 17 again. Peta No, I like the space tiger grades. Think that that was a. Speaker Key. Peta A key element, and I think the movie would have worked at all without the space tigers. But there was, like there probably more happened with the space tide of grades than necessarily needed to. Quinny Things things really extended out towards the end with the space data grades, and there was an awful lot of running around. Yeah. Peta Lots of space tile plates. Jill Yeah. I’m wondering if maybe there was another way we could have escalated the plot that didn’t revolve around the creatures. Dion Yeah, like you know, when you got to the Tartar tornado, I don’t know how to make that a thing. Wait, no, that sounds about tardigrade tornado. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Jill If we had maybe contained it to to Mickey’s storyline and character development, you know, with his run in with the the Loan Sharks and stuff. Yeah, we’re chasing him from the start. The film, and maybe wrapped it up that way. I don’t. ‘Cause we kind of we left that thread with Stephen Yoon’s character and then it. Peta Would have done the same things. Jill Didn’t really end up. Going anywhere with any kind of resolution for us? Speaker But then. Dion But then we wouldn’t have got the whole meat is murder thing and people need to stop consuming animals. You know, emotions in order to turn them into sources because. Jill I know that source. Peta We also like kind of like started a Nazi thread, but then we kind of left behind that I thought was going to become the plot. Quinny Yeah. Kind of about. They rocked up wearing Hugo Boss and I was like, OK. Dion I don’t think. Jill The the source thing was pushed hard enough as a character trait for Toni Collette. Quinny That was introduced very late. Speaker That was like. Jill Yeah, it was just kind of. Speaker Yeah. Jill Periphery. Quinny Like it’s a. Peta And then that. Quinny Funny line. And I love the concept. It’s like. Peta There’s like a scene at the end that’s kind of like, oh, what? Why was what? Why was that there like I? Dion Yeah. Quinny Love the concept of you know, the thing that separates us from the lower animals and stuff is our ability to use condiments. That’s ******* hilarious. Yeah. Yeah, but. Dion I mean, it could. It could have introduced it earlier as they were because we introduced by that revolves Trumpish character at the start going. It’s a cult of personality and she could have been selling sources on Earth. Jill Yes, it didn’t feel like it was a hard enough personality trait for her. Dion It it felt. I got a feeling of a lot of Christopher guest Ish kind of ensemble cast idea that was going around like we need these individuals that are good actors and we want them to create wild characters that are memorable because they’ve got a hook. But then it it was also. But we’re following one character. We need to be like that works when you’re following a lot of different explanations and you know, figuring out how weird it all is. And this one is like, no, this is about Mickey though. We always have. Keep coming back to Mickey. What about? You know, and it’s like cool. He. Or is he maybe just printed wrong, you know? Peta I mean, for me, it’s got a little bit of the Argyle to it as well where it’s kind of like starts off fun but then throws too many ideas at it towards the end. Jill Oh. Dion Wow. I mean, I thought it was way better than. Peta Way better than Argyle. And I was having much more fun when the extra ideas came in and was kind of willing to stay with it at that. But it does kind of have that kind of like, you know, feels like it kind of loses its focus a little bit halfway to the second act and is kind of throwing a lot. A lot at it. When the material and the performances and the concept were kind of funny enough to kind of actually. Simpler and and cleaner. Quinny I also thought it had a bit of the the Lord of the Rings about it too, that it had too many endings like oh, you know, we kind of got to a point where the we’d gotten to the the point where we’ve we’ve got a resolution. Jill Oh. Peta Yeah, did have a few moments. Quinny And then we’ve kind of explaining where people have ended up. Then there was another. And then there was another thing, and I and I was I was about to go. I’m about done guys. I don’t think I really need. A weird secondary flashback here or whatever I’m I would have been perfectly fine without that. Thanks. But yeah, like but we got it because Tony collected another scene. Dion But we got that anyway. Well, yeah, I. Jill But there was about like 2/3 of the way through the movie. Another flashback and I can’t remember what it was ’cause like at the start. You find out like, why Mickey and? I really forgotten Steve Minuchin’s character’s. Why they left? Earth. In like a flashback kind of perspective. And then you get like all of his like reminiscing about his earlier versions and how they all got to where they were now. Then there was another one. After the plot was progressing. Flashback. Dion I can’t remember what it was. Peta Childhood trauma. There was a shot of the magic. Dion Yes, that’s right, the show. Peta He gets. Jill Yeah. And I’m like, why did you put it? Peta Yeah. Jill Here, why didn’t you put it? All of the flashback. Because now we’ve kind of moved on. I don’t know why they. Dion Yeah. Which is the trauma is the trauma from the sound of the chains. Jill Did another one again if. Yeah, felt jarring. Dion Chains or double chains or I don’t? That was kind of weird with a speaker on it for some reason. Quinny Yeah. Yes. Jill Yeah, it just kind of came out of. I’m like, oh, we’re getting more back story. Like 2/3 of the way through the movie. Yeah, that didn’t make. To me. Quinny And and yeah, there were. Like, there was a sequence where they kind of. Back. To like the start of the film. Character you’re after was Timo. Like when Mickey’s down the crevasse and like you start the film with your cold open, then you go through a bit of an explanation. You catch back up to it and I thought I was like, Yep, cool. We don’t need to do the whole scene again. I think we can. Speaker Did it. Dion Is it? Is it just me or? Make it feel like a little bit like a telly movie. Like, I felt that this was that was a bit of a TV conceit because it’s only used once. You’re not jumping timelines if you’re going to start jumping timelines in something, you need to keep doing that. Jill Yeah. Dion You can’t just do it once and then be like, Oh yeah. See, that was funny, wasn’t it? Did this little jump thing. It’s like no. No, I want to. That. Progression because it’s funny enough. Jill Like that one week earlier. Quinny Yeah, yeah. And that’s how I got here. Dion Yeah, yeah. He may be wondering. Quinny How I. Dion Got here. No, I was. Just tell me how you. There. Yeah, yeah. Jill Anyway. Speaker Should we write it? Jill Do we have a clue? Dion Sure. I got a clip. I’ve got 2 clips. Is either. What is it Pennsylvanian? No Christopher Patterson. Quinny Yet Pennsylvania and Patterson. Jill Fitzpatrick, Ian. Dion Yeah, Pennsylvanian, which is Mickey 18, right? And Pittsburghy and Mickey having a little bit of a tie to date or I’ve got Mark Ruffalo eating everything around. Quinny All the scenery, all the scenery. Speaker All. Jill All good with either. Dion Look, I’ll, I’ll start. I had a fun time mostly, but it was more like, Oh yeah, this is kind of amusing and this is this is great. Had a couple of interesting ideas which I which I felt were really good conceit, not explored thoroughly enough to make you stop and think about it, but also, I’m just really happy. All of those people are now living on that planet. Millions of miles away from the earth. Even Mickey in the end, I’m just kind of like I’m actually happy he’s gone. But I am scared about the future society that will literally just if you have a debt, will track you down across a Galaxy just to make you pay. And that was the thing that scared me the most. Anyway, look 65 for me. Speaker Dion Yeah, it’s, it’s not as bad as. People have complained about. Actually, quite entertaining. Quinny Right. OK. I’ll go next, because **** it, why not? Because I never do. Like it? I liked it a lot. It’s a fun, big visual story with lots of great design work. Like I think the the monsters or the monsters. The tardigrades are cute, but at the same time appropriately squishy and fun, like there’s a lot of good body horror and stuff. Of all the way through. And the idea is entertaining enough, and it explored pretty. I think Moon did it almost similar sort of thing, but on a very different style. Of multiple versions of the one person. But yeah, overstays it’s welcome. Like I I really enjoyed it, but would have enjoyed it a hell of a lot more if we trimmed you know, 20 to 30 minutes out of it. I don’t know where from, but I’ve got a few suggestions. So I’m going to give it 80 because I actually really enjoyed it. Speaker Skype. Jill Peter, you go me. Peta Yeah. OK, I. I also like I had enough. Had enough fun? I I had enough fun that even when I was kind of like meh. This is maybe too much of this brand of fun. It it didn’t make me too mad. Like I said, I mean the absurdism, the witness that that kind of does it for me. Like I’m all good with that ****. I think for me it was. Just the kind of like. Trying to do a bit too much with the big blockbusteriness and in the process of doing that didn’t do quite enough actually with the point the satire could have been making. In, in the kind of a more you know, simple and elegant way with with the concept that I had. Such a weird complaint about a movie. I have fun. Fun is good 78. Speaker Nice. Jill I I had a lot of fun as soon as I got out, I told my friends to go and watch it because I thought it was just so good. Yeah, there’s like a few things that. You know, could be improved and we all touched on that tonight. What was I going to say? I ****, I forgot what I was gonna say, but it doesn’t matter. I liked it. Quinny It’s OK. We’ll bring in Jill 2042. Speaker Yeah. Jill I need chill for. Dion And she’ll have the answer for us. Yes, and. Jill As well as the meaning of life. I’ll give it. Quinny Yeah. Jill Quinny Nice. Wow. Dion I was. I was the lowest. Peta Yeah, I mean, 65 is pretty low for our standards down. Speaker By quite. Speaker 1 No, it’s not. Dion It’s just what I feel at at the time. Speaker Yes, Sir, all. Peta No, it’s not. Of our routing systems are fickle and changeable, and based on how we. On the day. Dion Yeah, all reviews are. It doesn’t mean anything. You may say something. Quinny You absolutely love it. Jill And I mean like when I went in, my only experience of Bong Joon Ho was no PSA. So. Was like, I really don’t like. Speaker No. Jill Movie. But the trailer for this looked cool. So I. It’s. And then, yeah, it’s funny on my head. Was great. Dion And now you’ve seen parasite. Jill Yeah. I mean Mickey 17. Doesn’t by any means like blow your knickers off. But it was a lot of fun. And just like a little jaunt. Dion Sean. Quinny I do love that Bong Joon Ho has some thematic stuff that he’s clearly really into. Dion Really. Does he? Peta Like. Quinny I’d like to. About the. Class. Yeah. I’d like to talk about eating the. I’d like to talk about the rich eating the poor. I’d like to talk about, you know, people in power doing terrible things. I’m like, thank you. Dion Yeah, yeah. Quinny Work. Speaker Yeah. Quinny Love your work. Jill Animal rights. Dion Yes, Speaking of that, do we want to have a look at Mark Ruffalo’s terrible society, or do we want to look at our pets? You know, acting against each other much like Lord of the Rings? Gollum. Smeagol thing. Go our. All right. We’ll go to this. This is this is the two Mickey’s having a chat. Hey, Mickey, there. So fun. Speaker Are you afraid to die? Dion Yeah. Speaker 4 You’ve had plenty of times. Speaker What are you so scared of? Speaker 4 Tell Mom I died. Born again? No. It felt like it was me continuing on. But now? Once I die. It’ll be over. For me. Help you living? You get what I mean. Back. Speaker 2 I don’t like you. Speaker She’s such a little *****. Speaker 4 But I’m you. I’m not you. I’m not going to live like you. Speaker I’m gonna kill you. Oh, no, you can’t do that to the Mickey. Dion Can’t kill yourself, you know. Quinny It in the bin Mickey. Dion I mean. Hang on, let’s, let’s. Quinny You cannot. If your Mickey was going in the kiln, would you get in the kiln with him? Get in the kiln. Dion Get in the kiln, Mickey. Sorry, that was. I’ve done a reference. I put the spoiler Lego up. This is. Now look, it’s an interesting for a film that’s full of ideas and and and things that it’s asking you to pay attention to. I feel like it didn’t pay attention enough to the more interesting. Things that are posited, which was, hey, they developed a technology where people could basically 3D print themselves. And the first thing that someone did with that was started committing crimes. That is. There is your elevator pitch to the world right now for a very interesting. We finally got enough technology to start 3D printing ourselves and the per the scientist who who discovered that or did that first? First thing they did was became a mass murderer. Like I’m down for this. You know, just going to commit crimes. Jill Not what I would have done, but. Quinny No. Yeah. Dion And then in this one, it puts out the thing of like, hey, you know what, if you kill yourself, is it murder or is it not really murder? You know it’s you also, if you have a threesome with yourself, is that just ************ or is it incest? Speaker I was like. Quinny Feels like. Jill You’re not actually related to yourself. Quinny No. Dion But you are yourself. Speaker So. Yeah. Peta From a genetics perspective. Dion Yeah, and and and if you if there’s slight variation between, does that make you? Speaker Like. Jill Can’t procreate with yourself? Quinny No, no, I mean, sorry. Jill There’s no danger. Quinny It’s just, it’s just really, really over the top ************. Well, you know, anyway, extreme ************. Dion Right. Speaker 2 It. Dion All these questions are not answered and more in Mickey 17. It puts them out there and then just doesn’t answer them. Quinny I kind of like that though. Like. It’s just like, here’s a bunch of ethical and moral quandaries that we’re going to let you Mull over, but we’re not going to. Dion Give you any answers to them in a way like that’s what society had become like instead of trying to fix things people left. What happens if you follow the cult of personality all the way through to the end goal, which is colonizing other planets and living in that Colt and starting a new generation? Does that look like you know? Peta It was less instead of trying to fix things, people left. It’s it was that. Interests were discouraging the fixing of things and encouraging the leaving. I’m assuming for commercial gain like there was a particular line in the in the beginning that kind of made it clear that there was a particular kind of movement. Of don’t ******* fix it. Pay us to put you on another planet. Yeah. So again, like the power of capitalism, I think. Is a driving force. Then. Dion Yeah, and feeding. I mean like the the ego at the top of capitalism was a great thing in the movie. Which was. Yeah, it’s a Trump. It’s like, what would Trump do? Wouldn’t fix. Trump would just decide to get idiots together to pay him to take them to another planet where he ruled like a God. Quinny Yeah. Ta. And I do love the the idea that this is, you know, the 3D printing humans is completely illegal except out in space. It’s like everything’s legal in New Jersey. Dion Well, I mean, it’s also the fact that he made the exemption for that by. Going it could be used for purposes of research. We should explore that, but just not here. Do it in space where it doesn’t affect anyone here. I mean, that was really interesting. Quinny Too, yes, international waters? Precisely. Dion Yeah, international interplanetary. Jill Intergalactical. Dion Yes. Peta Did you enjoy the? Trump esque. Suggestive, almost Nazi salute moment that was. Quinny Oh, there’s a lot of fun finger and then a couple of other fingers. And then there are other fingers coming in and you’re like, oh. Peta Incredibly, Elon Musk. Dion How many do we go? I’m. I’m just saying hi. Yeah. Quinny And that’s the thing. Like when they made this what I’m assuming? Peta They would have shot that year year ago at least. I mean, there’s a lot of effects like. Speaker It’s. Quinny Actually pushed back quite a long way too. Like it was meant to release a year and a. Dion Bit ago it’s 20. It was done in 2022. Speaker Oh wow. Dion But he’d. Quinny Yeah, there you go. Dion He’d I think Trump was already announced as running. Peta Yeah, but it’s more the echo of the recent Elon Musk moment than it’s. Dion There was. There was. Other this was a long time before. Quinny Exactly. Yeah, like it’s a pretty impressive swing to to, you know, well, he’s impressive. Maybe not to imagine that people might start ******* again, but. Here we are so. There’s a. Yeah, I. Enjoy the fact that it’s it’s about ideas and I love my sci-fi when it’s about ideas you know and asking really weird questions like. If you if you can’t die, what are the moral implications of you being lied to about your death? You know, or if you if you can die over and over and. Again is. Is it morally wrong to use you to create? A pathogen or. Dion Jesus, yeah. Jill Well, I mean, it was in the terms and conditions. You gotta read your your new apple. Peta Read the fine print. Jill IOS, when you sign up. Speaker I mean. Dion If it was a saving grace that I really enjoyed about the film itch, like for a while there I wasn’t believing Mickey and. And I’m national nasha’s, you know, relationship for a long while there until it got more explained how caring she was about him and how a lot of the things she because she was seeing her partner die over and over and over again. Speaker Nasha. Hmm. Dion And that was just his job. But the tenderness and the ability to be with that person as they die all the time like that would have been massively traumatic for her. When you think about it. Quinny Yeah. Dion And that was when you start to get like I thought, ideas were really. Like these were good reasonings and justifications, and I could understand stuff when it wasn’t presented that way. And they held it off a little bit too long. Was like, Oh well, that’s good. Like like. Peta Yeah, it came. It came in a little late. Yeah, because it was one of my favourite kind of things about it in the end. Speaker Yeah. Peta Yeah. And what happened to what? Happened to what’s her name? The other woman, who was at the dinner. Quinny Kai. Peta Like disappeared. Quinny Kai, who was sometimes you know, was obviously intended to be a bisexual lady who was attracted to both Mickey or whatever. I don’t know. She seemed to extricate herself from the plot at one point. Peta Why did she entirely disappear from? Plot at one point. Anyway, spoilers, but these aren’t like actual spoilers. That you will ask yourself while watching the film. Dion She returned at the end, though, in a in a healthy relationship with someone else. Peta Yeah, but, but what was the point of her? Dion Even though, yeah. I don’t know what was the point of anyone like, you know, they were punishing this guy with not giving him food for ages when he did something wrong. Which? Which is another kind of thing there about class structure in society. Because everyone got had to eat terrible, ****** meals for the whole time. For the. People in charge who just kept eating. Like regular folk and, you know, denying food to people as a weapon. Peta Sauce. Dion Yeah. Peta It says thanks. Dion Yeah, it’s got lots. Quinny It does say things I also felt like. There was a point where the end where they like, they’re rolling out on these big tank things and with the intent of having some big stand off with. The the Queen tardigrade, as it were. Dion And it’s all just objects. Speaker I felt it. Dion Sorry, I love that it was all just optics. They didn’t have a. They didn’t know what they were doing, but it would look good. Like all they wanted to do was make something that looked good. Make this guy look good. Quinny And yeah, it ended up being oddly anticlimactic. Was like. Yep, you never actually got anywhere near it. You didn’t get your video, and now you’ve been blown up? Cool. I mean felt appropriate for how I want that guy to go. But you know. Dion Yeah. And then they fridge the female character, Toni Collette. And then the return of the female character in a flashback. Was it a flashback? I don’t know. Criminally. See, This is why I got down to 65. But I still, like you know, had great, great movement of the the 3D printing of him and the way he fell out of that thing a couple of times. Thought man Robert Pattinson must have had a lot of massage and yoga and been very relaxed. Been a soft floor in the set those days. Yeah. Did anyone else like the scientist characters? Jill Yes, I liked Dorothy. Dion Yeah, I like. I also like the other scientist characters because they were like they also didn’t have empathy enough, and that was funny too, because they were just about the science. Yeah, you know, they’re just about like, we just need to like, especially when he’s outside. The first time. Then like we just. You to take your helmet off. What? Quinny Deep breaths. Dion ‘S your dead. Speaker 2 Deep breaths. Dion The radiation’s already. You just explain that to us so that we can get as much data as we can before we print you out. God. Speaker That’s why. Dion But that. What a corporation would do that had no morals. Quinny What I do wonder is like the whole concept that he has been. He gets reprinted each time and his memories get re uploaded but. From what point like? Is he being like because he can? I assume can remember his death? Peta Can you remind me to please? Yes. So I’m assuming there’s some kind of like instant linkage, instant link back to the yeah. Dion No, they. I think they explained it somewhere along that line, which is. Jill It was a point where he was explaining how he remembered his death ’cause. I was thinking the same thing. Dion Yeah. It gets backed. Yeah, it gets backed up each day. But. Whether or not. It also depends on when he like how long he’s from his death, that he that he gets backed up and stuff. Jill Yeah, I think it was when Timo asked him. Dion Who knows? Jill Then he’s like, do you remember dying every time? Dion Yeah. Jill Then that was when. Peta I mean, I was just assuming some kind of cloud situation. Dion They explained all that in altered carbon, which is on Netflix, you can go on, you know, if you want to, if you want to know how that is, that’s another one that talks about very, very rich people who get to live forever. Speaker Which? Dion That’s. Speaker Yeah. Dion Yeah, it’s actually a good series. Quinny Well, the first season is second season. Jill Yeah, I didn’t get through Anthony Mackey season. Dion You’d leave Anthony Mackie alone. A really good dude. Just seems to be in terrible properties. Jill This is under utilized. No, you know. He’s great in that metal one. Quinny Old twisted metal, which can get twisted metal. Jill Twisted metal looks. I love that stupid show. Quinny I saw a trailer for season 2 for that the other day and I’m. Oh **** yeah. Dion They got a second season, OK. Peta And. Quinny They got a second season and and and what’s more, they’re going more into the the game stuff that it’s more about. Like a big carnage driving into like, what do you call it a? Speaker Nice. Quinny Yeah, like a roller Derby, yeah. Gladiatorial Arena accepted cars. Jill Monster trucks. Quinny Yeah. Jill Demolition Derby. Quinny Demolition Derby, but like so essentially finally getting to what the game was. Which is, yeah. Jill Cool. Dion Thank God a video game property has. Accurate. Great stuff. We are looking forward to Witcher season 4. Sorry, it’s got nothing to do with Mickey 17. You’re just saying things about sequels and numbers, and I got distracted by myself. Quinny Sorry, I did go off on a tangent because we’re talking about twisted metal, but I do feel like maybe. Jill I thought. Had finished talking about. Quinny I was gonna say I feel like perhaps you haven’t covered everything there is to cover. Dion We’ve covered all that. Jill Yeah, go watch it if you haven’t. Peta But yeah, it’s fun. Yeah. Dion With popcorn like it’s great. Good times. What are we doing next week? Quinny Yeah. Jill What are we? Dion Oh, that’s. Together with the electric state. Speaker 1 Oh wow. Speaker Oh. Dion OK guys, good advantage. Quinny I just like Jill’s face. Oh, I’m saying, Chris. Dion Come on, fill the room. Jill Pratt movie. Dion No, no, no, no, this is. Quinny Yeah. Peta I’m still. What am I supposed to watch? Dion This is the Millie Bobby Brown movie. It’s Millie, Bobby Brown MBB or the other. Jill Oh. So we just ignore the other guy. Dion Yeah, don’t worry about CT. Quinny So it’s. Dion Focused on MPB, wait. Quinny Looking like being the most expensive film that Netflix has made. Jill Even more than that will. Speaker Yeah. Jill One that cost him a billion dollars. Dion What was that one? Jill The first one that bright, yeah. Quinny Right. Dion Was it? That wasn’t a billion dollars? Jill It was something stupid like that. Quinny It was very ******* high. But I think yeah, this is this is one of those ones that everyone’s like Netflix. Are you OK? You appear to be spending a **** ton of money. Dion But it’s Anthony Russo and Joe Russo, the Russo brothers. Jill Are the Russo brothers? Speaker 2 Yeah. Jill I’ll give it a chance. Quinny It’s got Bryant only had a budget of about somewhere between 90 and 100 million hundred and 5 million, so not actually that high for a big budget movie. But at the time for a streamer it was a stupid amount of money. Dion Yeah. I also want you to know that this one, the electric state that we’re reviewing next week, had a budget of $320 million and also has Anthony Mackie in it. Yeah, I. I’m just reading through the cards quickly and it’s like, wait, Stanley Tucci, Giancarlo Esposito, Brian Cox, Anthony Mackie, Woody Harrelson. Like what? And then I remember that most of his animated, and they’re probably all robot voices, which is like, right. Jill Yeah, that makes more sense. Quinny Yeah. Jill It’s going to be. An if situation. Dion Yes. Yeah. Well, the voice. Yeah. The voices that are in there are Woody Harrelson, Anthony Mackie, Brian Cox, Jenny Slate, Alan Tudyk and Kazaria Coleman Domingo. And then other people. Don’t actually know. Speaker Quinny Hmm. Peta This is the first time hearing of this movie and I definitely have been reading our chats properly. Dion Well, don’t worry. It’s on Netflix from this Friday. Peta Check it out. Jill Yeah, they’ve only just really started advertising it on billboards and stuff this last week, so. Yeah, don’t be too worried about not being. Dion Yep. Jill On it. Dion I was like worrying too. We all love Alan Tudyk and I’m hanging out for April because guess who comes back in April. K2. That’s right. Alan Tudyk Droid is in season 2 of Andor. Quinny I find your Ellen to strangle. Dion I hope. Get like AK-2. So origin story in one of the episodes. Would be great. Jill Yeah. Quinny I’m hoping to get to full three season 3 Series. Dion Arc three series. You know there is no more series. Jill Spin off, spin off. Quinny Quit 3 episodes is what I meant. Dion Been off his own off. Jill 2SS spin off, spinning everything off. Quinny Yeah, I’m there. Dion I mean this is this is what I. Like you know, some people are unhappy about the fact that they can’t watch Rogue one because everyone dies. I’m like, that’s the beauty of this thing. Bottled it’s. It’s a start and finish and you have to love it for the moment that it’s there and then let it go. Much like Mickey’s Mickey, 17, you love him for the moment. Speaker It’s like a firework. Dion There and then, he’s probably gonna die, so you gotta. Him go. Speaker It’s. Quinny So just a little thing on the electric state, a while ago we did a review of a series called in the loop. Speaker Yeah. Quinny Which was on Amazon Prime, and it was a weird anthology series. Jill Yes, yes. Quinny So the the designs that that was based on are all done by a guy called Simon Stalenburg. The electric state is based on his design work. Speaker 2 Yes. Speaker Oh. Quinny Like it’s all about these giant robots and. Semi apocalyptic American grassland kind of thing with all these rusting old robot hulks and stuff. Speaker Jill Well, maybe I can be a little bit more on board about this. That’s what. Quinny Like the trailers kind of look OK, whatever. But the designs. Speaker I thought it was. Jill A bit like what was that? That IP catchall Steven Spielberg movie. Dion Oh, the Ready Player 1. Quinny Ready Player 1. Jill Yes, that’s what the vibes I was getting. Peta IP catch all Steven Spielberg movie for adaptation of the book. Speaker Perfect. Jill I think my explanation was accurate. Dion No, don’t. Don’t worry. Quinny Nailed it on that one. Speaker Yeah. Dion 100%. Speaker It’s like. Dion I’m going to. You’re like one of those super fishing tankers that just drag Nets 400 kilometers of open and just pulls it all out and goes. You want this, right? It’s too much. What am I going to do all these? Most of it’s ****. It’s like. Don’t worry. Ready Player 2’s coming. I think. I think it’s still in development, but. Speaker 2 Oh yeah, I know. Dion You’re right. Speaker The. Quinny Book was, by all accounts ******* terrible, like. I mean shoe. Dion Book already player 1. Quinny Yeah. Ready. Player 2 was like everybody was like, oh, ready Player one has a certain kind of nostalgic thing that that appealed to a certain a particular group of **********, Judds and me. Jill Vanessa qua. Peta I mean, I didn’t hate it, but yes, continue. Quinny I didn’t hate it. I didn’t hate it as I read. I hated it when I listened to Will, Wheaton narrated. And then when you listen to somebody say it out loud, you’re. This guy is an insufferable **** ***. Who just spends the entire book telling you how good he is at everything. Dion Spielberg will not direct the sequel, but he will produce. Speaker Dion So obviously it’s sitting in the development hell of like I have. Have the rights to this. Who wants to come along and make this thing before the rats run out? Right. But Steven Spielberg’s like? Nah, I want to direct that. Jill Yeah. Quinny I mean, yeah, but yeah, the sequel book, everybody, even, even the the Unbuckles, have said not fun. A good follow up. Not enjoyable. Dion Speaking of book sequels to films like, You Know, Sorry, like Willow, what’s the second one? Laura Dernen book. Quinny Oh, it was a sequel to the what? Dion Yes, yes, the goes. Quinny They didn’t adapt into the hugely successful TV series. Dion No. And then there was one about The Princess Bride. Oh where Buttercup grows up, yeah. Quinny Yes. Jill Oh no, that sounds terrible. Dion Although the funny one, did anyone like see Star Wars? And then, you know, go out and read Splinter of the Minds Eye, which was the the book that was the sequel written at the time before he’d even written Empire Strikes Back and was turning into a trilogy. So. Speaker Oh. Jill Oh wow. Dion There’s some weird **** that goes on. Luke and Leia do hook up. Speaker Dion Yeah. Anyway, it’s Canon. It really. It’s called Splinter of the Mind’s eye. Can read it if you like. Masochism. Speaker Is. Quinny Equal to The Princess Bride. Called butter cups, baby. Dion That’s it, buttercup’s baby. Quinny EW, yeah. Dion And then there is another book. There’s a sequel to Willow in book form, I believe. Written by Chris Claremont. Speaker Really. Dion I think so. Correct me if I’m. I mean, I’m doing this off memory. And I never said that to Chris Claremont’s face because I wasn’t going to challenge it when I met him once. Peta Right. Dion Am I right? Have you looked it up? Quinny Is that truly due of sequel fantasy novel was published for Willow The Chronicles of the Shadow War by Chris. Dion Safety. Exactly. Was it by Krylis Clermont? You very much. Speaker 2 Brown. Quinny I mean, I hope they were better. That TV series. Dion I don’t think so. Because if. Because if they were any good, I think that they would have been mined for content for that TV show, which. Quinny Pete, you’ll be. Are we getting more wheel of time sometime soon? You’ve gone club. Peta What a great, good job on this second season, although like it’s Amazon and. Speaker I’m. Peta Having some issues. With support there. Dion Everyone getting around Reacher season 2. Jill Oh, I’m giving it a good old recharge. Dion Is it season 2 or season 3? Remember 3 I think. It 3. Jill Yeah. Dion Sorry, apologies for that. Jill Three. Yeah, I’ve got 5 episodes out. Dropping on Thursdays now. Yeah, I I really enjoyed the book that it’s based on. So I’m enjoying seeing it in TV form. Dion When I watched it. Yeah, I’m. Enjoying the ads that are coming up now. I’m like, oh, that’s. Jill At least they’re kind of placing them in like. Speaker 1 Yeah, but then. Jill Looks. Dion Like one of The thing is, there’s absolutely 0 tonal reckon like recommendation for. It is just out of left. It’s just kind of like, hey, toilet duck. Let’s talk about that for 43 seconds and. Jill You’re like, oh, when I was watching the Batman episodes, an ad would pop up in the middle of somebody talking. Speaker What? Quinny Oh yeah, that was that was ******. That was really, really badly. Jill At least the ads now are kind of being placed after somebody says something. Quinny Well, the thing that ****** me off about it is that most TV is still being made with the intent of maybe one day airing on AD, you know, on ATV channel where they leave the ******* ad breaks in there. Jill Quinny Actually put like beats in the episodes to leave space for ads. If you’ve got them. Why would you not ******* use them? Dion Also, I wonder can. Just like be part of that crowd that wants to call ******** on Reacher, having like a 10 episode season. *******. Come on. You know where’s the Golden Age of television, where they’re cranking at 26 episodes of these every September? Would start and you would just get 26. It would fall for and then people like Oh well. Anyway, I did read just like. ******* 9. I did 473 episodes. Jill I wouldn’t complain about having to stare at all. Speaker In. Jill For 26 episodes. Dion Sure. Quinny I agree with you, Dion, I think. Jill As long as he takes his shirt off for about 13 of them. Dion You know what? That’s. Speaker Dion Think the ratios are on your side there. Speaker I think. Dion Like Richard just seems to turn up and it’s like, hey, this is guys physically impressive. Let’s get him naked as possible all the time. Jill Yeah, well, there was. I think it was episode. He’s walking down the street in his underwear. Dion Yeah, and I love. Jill Yeah, no complaints. Dion Every single, every single female character in Reacher that sees him like is could be in mid sentence, just sees, sees him and then just goes the brain guy. Jill It’s not a great reel the other day that it was like, here’s the story about Reacher. Reacher can solve everything by how large he is. No. It’s too small for Reacher because he can solve it. His largeness. Dion I agree. Jill Except in this. In this book, there’s a guy that’s bigger than him. Quinny What? Jill Yeah, no. Dion But also way ******* Dumber. Jill So I think Alan Richen is like 6-6 or something and this guy that is in the this series is like 7, four or something ridiculous like that. Quinny Jesus Christ, but. Speaker 2 Yeah. Quinny Gonna say I’m like a mountain. Jill So it’s like. Does a large man defeat a larger man? Dion I mean it’s I feel like these these things can get a little bit lost until you start putting them back into. Like, I mean, come on. Just put them next to the female lead who’s like, 5-4 and then you’ll get the idea of just how massive that is. Quinny Or put them next to. Who everybody else thinks is a big, tall dude. Like I always remember seeing a picture of like I think it was Pedro Pascal or somebody like that standing next to the mountain and the hound. And it was like, oh, **** me, those things are actually giants. Dion Those things. Speaker Yeah. Quinny Before we wrap it up, what do we think of the 1st 2 episodes of Daredevil? Speaker Oh yes. Speaker 2 I’m watching it. Oh no. Jill There’s like about 5 different TV series that are out right now that are dropping weekly and I am like trying to divert my time to a couple of them and maybe I’ll just binge dead at a later date. Dion Maybe. Maybe Nick’s like if electric state. We might do electric state. A bit of daredevil give you a shoot. Jill Ohh ****. I’m gonna have to watch. Dion A little. Quinny Did you not just hear Jule say she wants to put it off? Speaker 1 No. Quinny We can wait. We can. We can wait till April to talk about the devil. Dion Sure, sure. My quick one on the two, the two episodes though, is on my daredevil. Speaker Oh. Quinny Really. Jill But it’s still the same girl. Dion You know, I I get that. But still. Speaker 2 Oh. Dion Although to be fair, I still only believe in Colin Farrell’s bullseye, so. Speaker It’s like. Dion That’s. He’s the only bullseye for me. Quinny Well, I’m in the opposite. I’m thoroughly on board with it and honestly, after about an episode and a half, I’m like Oh yeah, I’m just watching. Netflix show again. Jill Nice. Quinny Yeah, without all the **** stuff with the hand and the defenders. Speaker Oh yeah. Quinny Stuff like that. Dion Oh. Please bring back ******* Iron fist. Jill No two seasons too many of him. Speaker Hmm. Dion I mean that would that would be pretty great though, just at one point, all the defenders turn up in one of these episodes and I would just be like just having dinner or something having a. Speaker No. Dion They wouldn’t have. But they have to be separate from The Avengers. What would they? What fast food would they have? Quinny I don’t. I’m Philly cheese. I I would actually love for them to bring back Iron Fist. Just don’t want it to be Finn. I’d like it to have been Colleen Wing who took it. Jill Yeah. Quinny At the end of season 2. Was the iron fist. Speaker Yeah. Well. All right. Quinny Well, she did. Dion Sorry we have. We have to wrap it up there. ‘S Lost lost his ****. Peta And yeah, I’m gonna. Gonna. I’m technically, I’m still at work, so I’m just doing that. Speaker 4 Now. Quinny This this is the face of somebody who is working on an Emmy production. We speak. Dion She’s like, well, hopefully like hopefully. Peta I think so. Quinny I say not putting any pressure on Peter at. Dion All. If there’s anyone who needs a 3D printer of themselves, it would be Peter. If you do have that technology, just give it to Peter. Speaker Yes, we need that. Peta Technology, I promise I won’t use it for evil. Dion You. I just now I’m imagining Peter going. Quinny What happens if the printer gets stuck? Peta You run out of ink halfway. Starts just like printing one colour. You end up with like just veins for the rest of. Body anyway. Dion What the rolling mechanism gets stuck and it just keeps printing you, but you just get. This is war. Then you end up like it’s, so you get the substance. Jill Little ****** legs. When you come out. Dion Damn, the feeder didn’t work. Jill We were talking about that so much last week. Watched that on the weekend too. Dion Nice, nice. Jill ******* slaps that. Dion Movie it does. Slap. Quinny I’m off to go watch some more yellow jackets because that’s my thing at the moment. Jill It’s another one I haven’t started. Speaker 1 ****. Jill ******* White Lotus, though, the old seasons. Quinny Done Netflix now. Well. Dion Yeah, yeah, the old seasons. Quinny Yeah, yeah. Dion I’m going to go and watch some last week tonight to make myself cry about the future of the world. Jill Yep. Quinny Look with that. Thanks everybody. Dion Thanks everyone. Speaker 2 See you next week. Dion We’ll see you next week, OK? Speaker Alright.