The Electric State
Simon Stålenhag may not be a household name, but his incredibly distinctive art has inspired hundreds of thousands of people all around the world. His books, “Tales from the Loop“, “Labyrinth”, “Things from the Flood” and “Sunset at Zero Point” as well as the novel basis for this film “The Electric State” have garnered a passionate fanbase and one of these books has already been loosely adapted into the @amazonprime series “Tales from the Loop”.
That brings us to this new big budget Netflix adaptation of The Electric State, from Avengers: Endgame directors The Russo Brothers. Loosely based on the graphic novel, the film takes place in a reimagined version of 1997. Humans are isolated in their VR helmets in the wake of a global war against the robots, and around them the world is on the cusp of a complete technological meltdown. Amidst this dystopian setting a teenage girl named Michelle and a robot travel the U.S in search of answers to questions that may save her brothers life…
Is the combination of @milliebobbybrown, @prattprattpratt and the @therussobrothers going to bring this story to enjoyable life? Or will it be a lifeless remote controlled robotic shell?
Dion, Quinny and Peta are your road trip buddies this week, and we are sure one of them is a sneaky robot in disguise… but its up to you to decide who.
Synopsis
An orphaned teen hits the road with a mysterious robot to find her long-lost brother, teaming up with a smuggler and his wisecracking sidekick.
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Dion Oh, hello and welcome to the periodic table of awesome. And tonight I think I’ll write a straight anyway, I feel like I’m very electric. He’s very electric. An electric powered evening everything is live. All. Everything’s great. Hello kuni. Quinny Is that the state you’re in? Dion Peter. That is the state I’m in. There’s the there’s the, the one that. Quinny Excellent. Dion Had to do all right, OK. No, sorry. Can’t do a Norwegian accent because. I don’t care if it was written by. Quinny I mean, I’ll give it a red hot go, but you’re gonna hate it. Dion Yeah. I mean they only Norwegian accent I can do is from the chef, from The Muppets. So. Quinny With me. Dion The word across Pratt. Hey, I. Speaker Peta Mean the swanish chef? Quinny You’re feeling like. Dion I know I just do it to annoy Europeans. Fine. Peta Can’t remember what. Comic has that amazing bit about the Swedish chef being in the Norwegian. Chef in Sweden. Adam Hills, I think. Anyway, it’s a great bit. Quinny Look it up, yeah. Speaker You leave. Dion You leave Megan. Lovely. Quinny I still think that’s the best thing about the Swedish chef is what your what, your real name. Dion Tonight we are going to be doing well reviewing the electric state, the new Netflix vehicle for both Millie Bobby Brown and Chris Pratt. Speaker The. Dion Worst, Chris, is that is he still the worst? Chris like I need to figure this out. Like. Quinny I mean, I know another Chris, who is actually worse than him, but that’s a different thing altogether like. Dion Sure. No, we’re talking about what is. You know, Pine Pratt, Evans, Hemsworth. Is he still the worst? I don’t know. Quinny With. Pay the where where are. What are your feelings on the Chris’s? Peta It’s been a while since I’ve updated the the Chris rating system. I think Pratt is still the worst. I mean, let’s be honest just. Dion Yeah. The. The last time I heard about the anything to do with Chris Pratt doing a bad thing was buying a house in Brentwood, in LA and and it was a like an architecturally significant house. And then just like, demolishing it and building a new one. And like that was that was like last year just last year. Peta He. He lost a lot of points for tomorrow. Though like. Quinny I did. I went to a burlesque show on the weekend called Marvelous, which is running in Sydney. The rest of this week. And in fact. Dion Thanks, Courtney. Spawn con. Quinny Anytime. But I didn’t laugh because the narrator, Deadpool guy at one point like so we’ve got all of the Chris’s we’ve got, you know, all your favorite Chris Hemsworth audience goes yeah. Chris, Chris over the other one was. Peta Evans, Chris. Quinny Evans, yay. Dion Christopherson. Quinny Pratt and the audience just ******* gave him nothing. Speaker Like. Quinny Never heard an audience sucking their breath all as one and go. Dion Oh dear yeah. Quinny I think. Know where we’re at with the prep. Dion Yeah, sure. Well, enough talking about Chris Pratt. About. Bobby Brown, how are we all going with? We still love Millie. Doesn’t that seem terrible? Peta She’s gonna. She looks like she’s having a fun time again. I haven’t. Dion Yeah. Peta I’m not up to date on what people are doing in real life. Don’t know who we’re cancelling at the moment. Yeah. But I I still have fun with Millie. Dion Fair enough. Quinny Yeah. Think. Speaker Sure. Dion I mean, I feel. I I feel slightly a little bit uncomfortable for Millie as a sidebar in the sense that it’s like she seems to be doing a lot of like 80s slash 90s stuff at the moment. Feel like she’s kind of getting a bit pigeon holed into that. Like sort of. It’s like it’s OK to do things current maybe, but hey. Peta Here’s the thing. The 90s is super in with the kids right now. So. She’s she’s actually on Zeitgeist. She’s off. Dion Yeah, she’s moving with. She’s doing the decade move and. Speaker 4 Yeah. Dion I can’t wait to see Millie Bobby Brown in her early to in the Naughties era, when that becomes a thing that’s like, Oh no, that slow so long ago. We’re remaking. Speaker You. Know. Quinny I don’t want that. Don’t want. I don’t want us to have nostalgia for 2003. Dion Why are we doing 10 things I hate about you, the remake? Quinny The thing I think that Milly Bobby Brown is suffering from at the moment is that whole thing of constantly being thought of as still 12. And you know, even though she now is 21 and looks, you know, in all of the press like a like a. Peta Grown adult human being. Quinny Yeah, exactly. She is still being put into these very young roles. And no matter what, there is this vague sense of. Like, yeah, but you’re older than. And I know we’ve been doing that since Beverly Hills 902. Oh, and you know all that kind of stuff of 30 year olds playing 15 year olds. But I feel like there’s probably a thing for her to go. Can I play some roles where I’m an adult? Yeah, fine. Dion But she’s not in this one, all right. Let’s just be honest. She’s. Quinny No, it’s. Dion Playing a teenager, joining on your old, playing a teenager. Quinny Another. Thing. Dion Peta I mean, please, what media did we have when we were teenagers, where teenagers were not played by people in their mid to late 20s? Dion All 30s iron wiring. Speaker Yeah. Quinny Looking at similar, yeah. Peta That’s part of the course. Dion Sure. We’re not going to use what are we doing? Are we? So we’ve already said. We’re doing the electric state tonight, the Netflix show. So movie Netflix movie their. Kind of one for that’s coming out which. In all accounts seems to take a lot of fun and cool boxes. You know, based on a pretty cool property by Simon Stalenhag. Sure. Hug. Quinny Yes. Dion And directed by the Russo. So you know, bit of pedigree in there. That’s all right. That sounds pretty fun. And we watched it. Quinny We did before we go digging further, I would like to know what you both aware of. The artist Simon Stolenhuk. Do you? Peta Yeah, I my awareness of said artist is limited to previous discussions that we have had. In regard to. Television series, whose name I have forgotten, but you’re about to tell me now. In the loop. Dion Tails in the loop, not in the loop. Peta That’s right. Dion Whoops, that’s a different one. Quinny That’s very different thing. Very, very different thing. Dion Yeah, yeah. No, no tales from the loop that which was the Amazon TV series, which used that as the inspiration. Like the Stalin hug art as inspiration. Quinny Well, and also in very much the same things as this, that tales from the loop was an art book that he put out. And so the TV series was kind of going OK. Let’s let’s use this art book. And a lot of the art books do have. An amount of kind of narrative with them so that the the book of the electric state is all of these big sort of double page spread beautiful paintings, usually with a little sort of sidebar of text. Kind of doing a bit of world building or explaining some more of the story. Or expanding this world. He’s done a few, so there’s electric state tales from the loop, things from the flood and the labyrinth and sunset at 0 points. There’s a bunch of them. Speaker Yeah. Quinny Yeah, but they’re. Dion Moody and they’re evocative, and they they they set great tone. And they and and they’re like imagery that that hasn’t has like let’s you fill in all the blanks about how to get there and how did that all kind of work? I felt like and to go back to tailspin, I felt that that was a really interesting. Speaker 1 Hmm. Dion Approach that they took with that and because that was also a Moody and interesting show that let you kind of fill in the gaps. About Moses, I’ve kept a lot of mystery going in this kind of landscape that are presented. Speaker Hmm. Dion And then you had this movie. Quinny A movie pathologically incapable of keeping a secret to itself. Dion Yes. Quinny A movie is so keen to tell you every piece of law, every piece of back story, every piece of character history. Speaker 4 Or. Peta And yet so unkind to actually make any effort make any logical sense. Quinny Oh yeah. Dion I I thoroughly enjoyed within the 1st 20 minutes of it getting an A full explanation of 1 character’s back story to then change the scene to a dream flashback of the exact scenario that they just explained in the character story. Like the back story I was like, but you just told us this. And now we get to see it. As a dream flashback. Quinny Yeah, it’s hardly no. You’ve already told us. Dion Yeah, anyway. Quinny God. Yeah. So should we have a quick synopsis as to what this film? Dion Sure, why not? Quinny ‘Cause, I’d also like I’m going to be doing a thing throughout this that I know that you have gotten in trouble for in the in the past, which is. Comparing it to the original. And going, oh, we didn’t do. So anyway, this is the synopsis of the. Now the question is where we at with the **** accents? Already done. Swedish chef. Speaker Yeah. Can I help you? Quinny What? What do I? What do we what are we doing here? Dion Norweg. Danish. Danish. Arch. Quinny Oh no, this is going to go bad. Peta It’s already gone bad. Oh dear. Speaker 4 I know. Very scared. Quinny Based on the graphic novel of the same name by Simon Stalin Hagg. Ard. How it’s pronounced if we’re. Plate takes place in a reimagined version of 1997. Pete’s face Pete’s. Is where it’s at. Peta I’m sorry, it’s physically painful, but keep going. Quinny With humans isolated in their VR helmets and the continuing battle against a strange breed of monstrous drones in the. Speaker Sorry. Speaker 4 Tell me more about the monster monster’s dance. Quinny I’m sorry. Oh dear, in the wake of a technological meltdown like a teenage girl named Michelle and the robot travel through the West Coast of the US in search of the girls missing brother. No *******. The brother the robot. There you. There’s all of these surprises that you’re going to get. Speaker Well. Peta Rush in there interesting. Quinny I’m just, I mean. Dion Disappointed reading? Peta These. These are. **** accents that we really TuneIn for. Quinny I was gonna say. I’m I’m very I’m not. Dion I’m sad that we. Peta Sure. What the film is about, because I was so distracted. Dion I’m sad we didn’t get to Spanish. Really, to be honest. Didn’t just end up in Bueno at the end. Quinny I’m learning that in Duolingo at the moment, so you know maybe maybe I’m gonna stick away from that. Dion Peta This is a movie about robots. Quinny OK, an orphan Dean hits the road with a mysterious robot to find a long lost brother teaming up with a smuggler and his wise cracking sidekick. That’s kind of a short version. Tldr. Dion Yeah. And and. Peta We’ve had a lot. We’ve had a lot of dystopian futures. Quinny Hmm I. Peta With robots and androids, and some combination. Recently. And they haven’t always done for me. Same fact, I think. I think the most recent ones I’ve had complaints about. Dion Which is yeah. Peta So. Dion Which is the most recent robot dystopian future? Is it mithregan? Quinny What was that? Peta No. Oh, well, I mean, we’ve had. Oh my God. I’m not having a good lifetime at the moment. Me out. Dion All right, I get it. No worries. Peta We’ve had our recent romantic comedy that. Had a dystopian. Robot, we’ve had our big, expensive movie at some point last year with Little Boy Android that needed rescuing and the Sleeping Beauty SRO situation. Speaker Yeah. Yes. Dion Oh, companion, are you talking about companion? Had that one. That was a romantic love story. Peta I was talking about companion. You cesar’s helping. You Cass? Quinny Yes. Back through the hot tub time. Peta Trust. Chat. Yeah. Look, we’ve, we’ve, we’ve. It’s it’s. It’s a theme that we’ve been riffing on a lot lately and I I kind of feel like when when we’re riffing on on a theme a lot, I’m gonna start really getting a lot harder on it because. Dion Yeah. Peta I don’t know. Like if if we’re if we’re not feeling like it’s new and and fresh and and we’re gonna I’m. Speaker Peta It’s hard to avoid my **** waves and my my criticisms. Dion 11 important thing to note, I think I think about this film. It is very definitely not a ******* film. Peta At that stage. Quinny No. Dion So this is yeah, this is. This is not that one, this one is. Peta It is. Is. It is not that one. Dion No. Peta No, it is not, but it is a a robots in. Dion And and. Peta Lickably started a war when I think, inexplicably, the the very lengthy and detailed expositional sequence. Speaker Me. Peta Doesn’t actually explain why we have installed technology in all of these robots. With some kind of artificial intelligence capable of self actualization. Like it probably didn’t need to be. In all of in all of the robots. Dion It’s it’s a very interesting point. I think you’re making there, Pete, with the the fact that it goes at the film goes out of its way to explain that this is technically the 90s as an alternate, like an alternate history, 90s where people are still using computers. Quinny Yeah. Dion Like a 90s Macintosh. Quinny Yeah, I was windows. Dion Except for yeah. But but like a 90s era, like kind of computing power, but also these robots that are all running around. Vastly. Complex with no explanation to it. Apart from this sort of nebulous little thing that they throw out, there is, like, based on Walt Disney. Quinny Hmm. Dion Like Imagineering, robot. And then we made robots and it was like, cool. Didn’t explain how the program. Peta And then robots decided that they didn’t want to work for us anymore, and they’d like, wanted their own lives. I’m like, what technology have we? In these robots. Quinny Why did we do that? It seems counterproductive. Dion Why do we not make them into computers like the computers that we? At home. Peta And it it makes sense in some context like it makes sense in humans. Speaker Yeah. What are they running? Peta Where the premise is that we have created. Humanoid androids that are just like us in many ways that are only meant to be our helpers and somebody’s mess with the code. And you know, they’ve self actualized like, OK, that makes sense. Just like all of the robotic things in the world. Speaker What? Peta Regardless of what they were designed for, have self actualized and decided that they want to live their own lives is just a suspection of disbelief. Leap that I was unable to take from the beginning, so I was fairly screwed. Quinny Yeah, starting out. And it’s something that the. So sorry, I’m going to do my first thing about the book. Something that the book avoids. The book is all set in a in a world where the war has happened and it’s happened quite some time ago. It’s never particularly explained who the war is was with, or why you get the vague sense that there were robots, but there are these gigantic drone sh. Stuff like that. It’s certainly never shown as being like, oh, it was a bunch of humans getting around and, you know, shooting cutesy robots or anything like that. You get the impression that this is like. People living in the scaffolding of **** that has fallen down 20 years ago. And trying to rebuild society around all of this stuff, whereas this is not that it’s it’s, it’s this kind of cartoony. Dion Yeah. Quinny Very friendly. Very well lit. Very sunny. Kind of idiocy. Oh. Peta It’s got the vibe of wall-e. No. With the aesthetics of. Halfway there to the aesthetics like I can see looking at the original artwork, how the aesthetics have come from it. It doesn’t have that latent creepiness. In. Dion Yes. Peta I mean the design looks very similar, but it’s it’s got more of a like Disney. Comedy feel than it does that kind of like it’s creepy horror feel. Quinny Hmm. Yes. Yeah. Like it’s a book that that like you see the pictures in the book and it’s all about a girl traveling across America with a small cute robot. But like, it feels alien. And it feels really strange in this one. Course they feel the need to put a truck driver with a stupid handlebar mustache, and he’s. Cutesy robot. Like it’s it’s exactly what you expect from a Hollywood adaptation, yeah. Dion Yeah, just like. And in that like you’re talking about, you know, in the book, it felt like a struggle. You know, there is this thing this way, and this one is just like, oh, people go and have fun adventures, and then they’re gonna fight the bad robots. The bad robots are actually controlled by humans. They’re bad. Maybe I don’t know, but maybe. Peta And weirdly, those ones haven’t self actualized. So. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Dion Well, well. Peta They have not really explained. Dion I mean, it’s kind of explained and then it’s trying to make social commentary on the fact that people are plugging in. To computers in a very and it tries to be very painterly, I think. Peta Hmm. Dion Oh yeah, in the film. But like, yeah, the narrative. Peta It’s not ugly. Dion No. Yeah. Peta It’s it looks good. Dion It’s narratively ugly. Speaker It’s hmm, yes. Dion Which? Which is what I think a bit of the problem was. I had AI had an issue with the fact that I was like oh. It it’s it’s. Kind of like, you know, someone looked at the book and went. That’s some very quick storyboards and then go write a script about that, but it’s gotta be. But here are the markets that we need to touch on, like that’s what it felt like. It’s like he’s he’s your visual interpretation. I need a script for this, but here are the things that you need to like, market. Quinny Oh. Dion It has to be kid friendly, can’t have any blood. Has to be accessible to this market. This demographic, you know, all of those kinds of things. Quinny We want Fitzpatrick to be a little. Chubby and sunny, you know. Also, we want to really tap that nostalgia button. The way through. Speaker Joe. Quinny Like, that’s something I kind of was watching. Was like, who the ****? That element come from. Dion Because 90s kids are grown up now and they have kids and that’s what we’re going for. We’re looking for a movie that people like, people who are kids in the 90s. Quinny I get it. Yeah. Dion Are now having kids and what can they we take them to go and see and that’s where it felt like it came from. Quinny It’s all about Twinkies and Billy, the big mouth bass. Dion And and. Peta But also because Jen Gen. Z has a lot of interest in 90s nostalgia at the moment, which is insulting. To say the least. Dion But I found I found a very insulting to just be have so many ******* nostalgia references done by like, you can’t talk about the GI Joe lunch box. It’s like Jesus Christ. Quinny You know what this reminded me of? And, and I think we we started talking about it last week. This reminded me so much of Ready Player 1. In that sense that it has obviously had buckets of money thrown at it. Dion Yeah. Quinny Like Ready Player 1 does it with like Spielberg money where he says **** it. I’m gonna throw every character that I can get a license to. And Oh no, tarry’s going to bed. Bye, darry. And throw them at the screen. This is kind of like, well, we’re gonna spend a **** ton of money on very complicated animated. Robot characters, and we’re going to fill our frames with them, but we’re still going to be sold like, you know, it felt really obvious. And in your face. And just. Yes. Peta That that’s nuance. Quinny Yes. Peta And mystery and. Just, yeah, it lacked. Dion Yeah. I mean, I think I feel like it lacked. It lacked. It’s just kind of the easiest phrase to use is it’s. How? You feel about the electric state it lacked. But you know, on a positive side, I quite enjoyed the the look that was taken from the Simon Stalin, Hagg, Stalin hug. Simon Haagen does. Look of things. But it I found it very detracting when I had to watch the humans interact with stuff or the human sort of idea of it was that even though they had, you know, somewhat kind of interesting characters, you know, Gencallo Esposito was in there as the bounty hunter kind. Like he’s he’s riding a robot from his. Wherever he is, I feel like he’s getting a little bit pigeonholed as a bounty hunter. Speaker Hmm. Dion Many bounty hunters has has he like villains? Quinny Yeah. Dion He been playing now. Speaker You just. Dion Like. Peta Gotta like. He’s just got a really, like, good bounty hunter glare. Dion Yeah, but it’s. But, but it’s that’s completely ineffectual when you put it behind a screen. Quinny Yeah. Dion Like it’s his in person persona. Quinny And that’s the other thing. Like, you know, a lot of these films are built on the. Of peril. You know that we want to feel that the characters are imperiled in any way, shape or form. There was precisely 2 moments in this film where I thought, oh, maybe a character might be vaguely in danger. Can I? Dion Can I have a little bit of anger just with one thing about that particular bounty hunter like character? Speaker Um. Quinny Yeah, he ****** me right off. Dion I mean, I actually kind of liked the. The you know the little bit Western character that was just like kind of Yule, Bruner’s Westworld always. Down and. It wouldn’t kind of stop, but how overpowered was the character at the points where it needed to be and weak when it wasn’t like and also the gun that he had just seemed to destroy? Everything like that he that he shot at. And yet when you come to the big climactic battle at the end, no one else has. Gun. Nobody else has the firepower like that one bounty hunter Guy who had, like, basically a pistol that shoots red lightning that destroys everything. Quinny Yeah. Speaker Yeah. Dion And then you’ve got a whole army that have been fighting robots for. Years and they have. Quinny Mm. Dion They have basically like figured spud guns. Quinny Yeah. Dion And it’s just dumb. Quinny I something I’ve noticed part way through and one of the things that really frustrated me was that the the book the art has this real big sense of scale like the the landscapes are big. Things are a long way. And you can see how gigantic these. These things were in the landscape. All the time, I kept on feeling like I was in small rooms. Like even you know, there were a few times where they’re out on a Prairie or whatever, and I still kept on feeling like, OK. We’re in a small car. Now we’re in a small room. We’re in a mall. Another ******* mall because I’m pretty sure Netflix bought 5 malls about 10 years ago, and now they’re just using them for everything they can. Dion Just used more. You know, we must have a well, it feels a little bit like what is it, the Canadian quarry. Speaker And. Dion From from like Stargate TV shows and everywhere that were shot in Canada. It’s just like, oh, we’ve got these quarries, we’ve got to use them. I feel like, yeah, Netflix has got a lot of moles. Like, well, we got these disused moles in Midwest Idaho. Better go shoot there. Quinny Yeah, like there’s something about the the book that is really cold and really wet and you get the distinct impression that, like maybe the whole ecosystem has been fried. It’s all like all the images are grey and rainy and stuff like that. And that’s one of the things that. Of the. Of the book. And then you set this in the desert. Like middle of the day, hot desert all the time. And you’re like. Dion Rain is very hard to animate quinny because all of this felt like it was shot on a green screen. Speaker Hi. Quinny Excuse very much so. Pete, you mentioned about. How far into it were you before your first exposition hip study? Peta Before I sent you guys a message saying if you don’t hear from me, I’ve. From exposure. Quinny That’s the one. Dion Yes. Peta I was definitely within the 1st 10 minutes of the film. Dion ‘Cause I hadn’t seen it. And then I was like, oh, and then I started watching it, and I was like, oh, my God, she’s right. Like. I’m just. Peta Yeah, it was in the IT was in the the, the expositional news sequence which again we’ve had a lot of alternate histories recently as well. It’s just not the best I’ve seen it done. I mean, it could make it 3 by 4 to begin with. Like. And then we have like we have the, it’s under the guise of of. A piece on on the the tech. You know. And then there is, you know, a historic montages as part of the piece, and it’s all supposed to kind of feel like. 90s television. And. It just. Oh my God, it just killed me. Quinny And. Peta It just killed me with exposition. Quinny And the main thing is that there are two competing kind of narratives. Like you’ve you’ve well two competing questions like you’ve got this technology thing about all these robots and you’re like, OK, robots. Was a robot uprising, and now you know, it’s like free the. And stuff like. And then you’ve got this other thing. With the tech mogul and everybody being. You know, vaguely addicted to their neurolink thing, yes. And it’s like. I know that they’re kind of linked together, but they don’t feel like they belong. I don’t know. Peta Like I would have been able to watch the film without the explanation. Yeah, and and my brain would have filled in the gaps in ways that. I didn’t spend the entire film going back. Dion Isn’t it? Speaker Isn’t. Peta Why? Dion That. Isn’t that the meta narrative that they’re trying to? Is that because people are so disconnected and they’re always stuck in their way, like their their neurocaster, you know? That they can’t actually, you know, think. You have to spoon feed it to people and that’s the problem. And the only way you could be a cool kid these days is not be joining with all the other kids using the technology. Isn’t that right? Peta My I’m. I mean, yes. The the messages is heavy-handed, but I suppose relevant and I guess that’s the other kind of annoying thing about it, is sort of like, oh, there’s kind of like you could have, you could do something even though you’ve set it in the 90s. Speaker Like it? There’s. Peta You know, like we’re talking about, like the messaging in Mickey 17 last week and how like there was a lot. That it kind of had to say. And I think there’s a lot that this had to say. But I wasn’t with. I wasn’t on the I just like was not on the. Enough with this film to to kind of get messaging, but then I kind of wonder, are we being old and jaded and panicked? Dion Yeah. Peta And would this film, you know, it is? It’s a good looking film. It is, you know. Has a great cast like. Will this play better for somebody younger who isn’t going to get so Maya down in the? In the ****, wives and the failed attempt at nostalgia. Quinny I don’t know. Like, I mean by all accounts has not really hit its mark. It has not received particularly great sort of notifications from anywhere and it cost a lot of money. Like lot of money. But yeah, I don’t. Maybe. Maybe for a younger audience, this this would work, but it also. Peta Feels like it’s for a younger. Dion I mean, yeah. Quinny But then it still kind of doesn’t in so many ways cause like it’s still got this kind of weird tonal thing where occasionally it wants to be really dark and unpleasant. Dion Yeah. Quinny And then it. Then it kind of veers away and goes, no, we’re going to do cutesy stuff for a little while. There’s this whole thing at the start with her foster father that you know. Dion And who was that? George costanza. I know Jason Alexander at the. Where I was like wait, what? Quinny You know, and he’s, you know, going. What are the different ways that we can collect money off you and, you know, like, there’s sort of some vague element of like, oh, we’re going to go bit of social realism or not realism. But social commentary there. Not really. Speaker Yeah. Dion It’s, I mean, OK, do you? Do you remember the animatrix? Yes, Peter, did you see the animatrix? Peta Good. Did not. Did not watch that? No. I also never saw a third matrix. Dion Oh, OK. Peta So you know I, but then I saw the 4th 1:00. So I like, yeah, that must be about the matrix. Dion No, no, no. I’m. I’m talking about like there is there is the matrix and then there is the Anna matrix and there are no other films. Peta Right. Oh, OK. Dion Peta I’m sorry, I didn’t realize that that was the hierarchy of the matrix, so I probably. Watch the animators. Dion It’s just my hierarchy. Quinny Bye. Dion But in it like there is too short like animated films like ’cause, it’s it is a collection of melange. Of different stories called the Second Renaissance Part 1, a Second Renaissance, Part 2, and that explains the robot operating in like a very short, sharp kind of like how did, how did they go from, you know, having robots that were serving humans to how did the robots Reb. Take over humanity. Like that is all they. And they could do that in like 15 minutes. And it was like, amazing. And you got, you got all of the things, you know, kind of like. Peta Phone. Dion You understood. Hit all the right beat so you could fill in the gaps and understand like great. See why the robots rebelled? Humans were being comple. And what does the war look like? Is it all? And that’s what I think that this kind of steered away from instead of steering into felt. It’s like we’re going to actually go this direction where this is just a fun kids story to go. Some dark themes in there, but we’re just going to not go anywhere near those dark themes and we’re just going to just try and make this as accessible as pop as possible to everyone. Speaker Yeah. Quinny And when we look at the, I’m sorry, when you look at the book like there, it’s a horror book. That’s the. It’s kind of sits right on the borderline of liminal space and horror that throughout the whole thing, all of those neurocasters. So all through the book, there are just people who are virtually. Standing around. Like with those on their heads going like unable to move because they’re completely subsumed into it and it’s become basically a disease. You know. Dion Yeah. And they they tried. There’s that one scene in the film where someone’s passed out like on a street, just kind of lying there. Quinny Yeah, but she puts a. Dion That’s OK, but it was not trying to say anything. Just kind of went, oh, it’s this. Quinny We should look after these people because they’re in their little things and it’s like. There. There is such a this is my mistake and it’s a mistake I always make. I look for the film that could have been. I keep thinking that I want the film to have been something that I could see, that it could be, you know, I want things to be darker. Want things to be more weird and I want things to feel more, whatever. I want this. I want the the electric state, the book novel, to be adapted. By Gareth Edwards at the time that he made Monts. Dion Yeah. Quinny You know, on a budget of **** all where he was just going and going saying how do I make it really weird little film. I’d like it to feel more like annihilation, you know. Peta You guys have annihilation. Swear to God. Quinny I know you don’t like. Peta And I agree this is. Quinny Feel like Last of Us? Peta You know it wasn’t. Wasn’t for. I do wonder if maybe it wasn’t meant for us because you know, looking at the poster and the advertising for it like it looks like a Disney film, it looks like maybe it’s for tweens. And are we doing that thing where we’re getting ****** at something just because? Not meant for us. But but yeah as as. For something that for my tastes and when we’ve got so many options now for stories that are like this, that are told in really different ways. It really wouldn’t be one that I. Recommend. But maybe it’ll find an audience, you know, with some younger kids who don’t have, you know, the the. Speaker Hello. Dion I think no, but. Peta Yeah, maybe. Dion Think the problem is is that actually tales from the loop got it really accurate. So when you watch something. Quinny Yeah. Dion It’s basically the same kind of property, the same idea ideology that’s running through this thing gets it so different in that way. Like you know, it’s this could all be the one universe, you know, tales from the loop. And you know the electric state and all those kinds. Speaker Hmm. Dion Things this could all be the same universe. Technically, and it’s disappointing to see something miss away from. But like you know, I see the point here of going oh, it’s not for me. So therefore. It’s bad. No. Speaker I just wonder. Peta If we’re falling into that trap, because to me. Feels like it’s not meant for adults, really. Quinny Like you. Peta Know it’s too simplistic and it’s it’s storytelling, and maybe it was never meant to be for us. I don’t. Maybe I’m just trying to find something for. Quinny That was definitely. Peta It because. A great cast and it’s not ugly. Quinny No, I I kept on thinking all the way through it. Was like, where’s the artfulness in the dialogue? Like you know, we’re talking about exposition. I don’t mind a bit of exposition if it’s done with a bit of flair. But this it’s funny. This and Captain America, the most recent one, both felt like it was just written by people who were going. This is the word need to say now there’s no. Like. Kind of poetry to. No, really. You know meaningful lines that make you go. That’s sort of got something to say. Dion I mean, if. OK, here’s here’s my thing, my counter claim. If this was meant for kids, why would the dialogue rely so heavily on nostalgia ticks and all of the scenes rely so much on on, on hitting nostalgia bits for people and music? Yeah, exactly. Like you talk about Marky Mark, Funky Bunch. The the big mouth bass. You know, all that kind of stuff that has, that’s not for the. You know that’s for the the adults. Quinny Yeah. Dion So This is why it got slightly. And also you know if it were really for kids, where’s? You know, where’s the thing of like, you know, heavily marketing towards children’s like, come and see electric. We’re going to talk about Cosmo. You know, the little robot boy that you, you know, his sister, that are going through. It’s none of that. It’s quite literally. Quinny Yeah. Dion You should take your kids to see this or we should watch this because it’ll be fun. As we don’t know exactly who are marketing this to, but we just need to make sure it’s accessible to everyone. Quinny As a matter of interest, did that work for either of you? That relationship between her and and kid Cosmo, the the little robot? So cute. Peta Absolutely. I didn’t understand it at all. I thought that that little thing that he does with his hand was. Was. Like a thing from the actual cartoon. So I didn’t understand how that would be like something that would make her understand that it’s him. Dion ‘Cause ’cause the the robots. Peta I think you’re right that like that, that that journey from like, what is this to? Definitely. My brother was like, way too quick for me. Didn’t understand how. Dion I love how they skip. Quinny She got there. So that’s the big twist at the end of the book like that, you go through the whole book and it’s like, oh, no, this little robots been her brother the whole ******* time. Big twist. Shock ending. No 1st 5 minutes of the film. Dion And I mean like. The other part of that was it could have started so well because he is humans in the human area. After all, the robots have been isolated in their cage reserve. All right, one robot turns. Quinny Hmm. Dion And you know, at the start, she’s like, Oh my God, there’s a robot. It’s gonna kill us, you know, kind of vibe that you’re getting for going. Be kind of like a story like obviously robots are still out there and they’re dangerous. But we don’t get any of. We just get like after 2 minutes. It’s like, oh, this is a nice robot, OK? Must save this robot. You’re. What? What the **** is going on? Quinny On like, yeah, like they they. Peta Big flash. Quinny Started the edge towards it at the start, didn’t. That it was like this was like a home invasion and there was a kind of race kind of thing being played. A robot’s gotten in and broken into your house. In danger. But then they kind of went OK. We’re going to away from. Dion That we’ve banged on for 45. Speaker Who is? Dion Now let’s rate this and move on, shall we? Quinny Well, we can do spoilery stuff anyway. Dion Yeah, we’ll get. Quinny There is one thing I really would like to talk about the end. Dion Sure. No, no, that’s good. That’s. We should write that because it has been 45 minutes. Quinny Dion Talked already? Quinny Speaker Right. Dion I’ll start. Look, I’m gonna give it 60. Some of the robots are cool. Some of the dialogue between the robots is great, but it’s vastly underutilised, like because you don’t spend enough time with the robot characters to understand or get sympathy for them. They steer so heavily away from violence and blood and death and real like reality. That it is difficult to to like. I don’t think anyone was doing a bad job. Just think it’s. So I lost marks because it was a disappointing reality to the interesting. Speaker Cancel. Dion Quinny Fair enough. Pete, do you want to go next? Peta Yeah, again I. I don’t think anyone did a bad job. I just really didn’t like the storytelling. I really, really didn’t like the storytelling style. Like. At all, from the very beginning. It. It was just so half me to get on board with any of it. Think the performances you know great. The cast is great. The you know. Design of the robot’s thought, thought for what it was, was cool. Would have liked it to be different. Yes, 58. Which is like I just like. I’m not mad at it. Just really personally didn’t like the storytelling style. Quinny Yeah, I’m. I’m with you on that one. And remind of everybody in the chat, if you have seen it drop a drop a rating in there. Love to adding your ratings. Yeah, I after watching the film, I was disappointed. After doing a bunch more sort of reading and exploring about everything else, I got more disappointed because I realised that if you’re adapting something. Then that is beloved by a lot of people, and you willfully choose to adapt it poorly. And like, steer away from the things that make it what it is and make it interesting. Then that kind of ***** me all the more. Yeah, it’s as film entirely by itself. Visually interesting. It’s got OK characters, some fun performances. I think Chris Pratt is entirely unnecessary in this film. Dion I know he’s cool, he’s cool. Quinny I like. Dion Sidekick was necessary though. Quinny I liked Anthony Mackie though. That’s Anthony Mackie’s cool robot. I got cool. Chris Pratt didn’t need him. I’m actually. To go a little lower than. I’m I’m straight at 50% because I think this is half the ******* film it should be. It. All tonally wrong. Speaker Is. Quinny Just wrong, Daddy wrong. Dion Speaking of wrong Daddy wrong, let’s go to a clip. Quinny Yeah. Speaker Thank you. How’d you 2 meet? Speaker 1 We actually met in the. We’re supposed to be. Speaker Killing each other. Speaker 2 Bots had my whole platoon surrounded, broke my leg in two. Ten men circled up to finish off the job. Look up. I see this big dumb construction bot peering down at me. Close my. Get ready to die and instead he just lifts me up, carries me out. Speaker 1 You were crying like a baby. Speaker 2 Yeah. Not like a baby, you know, they don’t really know human emotion. Speaker 4 It was a war cry like, yeah, Wolverine. Speaker 1 Please, you are sucking your thumb and begging me to save your ***. Speaker 2 He’s he’s correct. Speaker Is that a mall? Speaker 1 Seems to be in pretty good shape as the scabs hasn’t folded yet. Fine. Dion There we go. Sorry. There we go. Right button. Back here. So everything’s fine. Scabs. There we go. Yeah. I just want to talk about that one. Rebecca, you got a little bit of the the Grizzly War ward veteran, kind of Chris Pratt thing. Quinny Yes. You seem in the opening montage too. Dion Yeah. Isn’t that? Just a little way to call back later. Kind of boring. Speaker Mm. Dion Doesn’t actually show any reasoning because he doesn’t do anything in that to to make you feel any doesn’t act like a war vet. It’s very, very superficial scavengers, so they’re robots that hunt other robots in the reserve to take their parts because they’re all degraded, and that could have been an interesting idea. Yep. Did we see any of that? No, because they never ******* turned. Peta Shade. Dion They turned up twice and the second time they didn’t do anything. Were ineffectual. Quinny I do love the Kihui Kwan has now got an ongoing gig as science Guy who will explain stuff. You know, I’m happy for him to have his. New second coming his. Renaissance, if you will. But I do want to see him do other roles that aren’t knowledgeable. Who everybody goes looking for. Dion Well, just go and watch everything ever all at once again. Quinny Yo. See, I love that film. Yeah, very weird. OK. Can we talk a spoiler? Dion Yeah, I’ll put up the spoiler logo. Quinny That’s not OK. So we’re talking about, like, the tone of the film and how so much of it is quite light and airy and, you know, is cartoony violence and stuff like that. Dion For it. Quinny No blood or anything like. And then, sorry, this big spoiler for right at the end. The entire thing hinges on them killing a child. Yep. Peta I mean, it’s like a kids film from the 80s and early 90s, so like it was cracked for me. Dion Is it really is? Is it? Is it really about killing a child or is it about a child wishing to die? Quinny I’m not sure which one’s better, let’s be honest. Dion Yeah. And it’s it had no like it’s supposed to be a big moment of realization. And and and and have emotion to it. But there is nothing there. Just it’s just the next part of the story. It’s the next thing to do, because that’s what you do. No one actually gives a ****. And people, you don’t see the consequence of this or you don’t see as again right at the end. At least they got. They gave us some exposition, right to finish it all off by explaining what happened after that happened. And instead of. Quinny But also he’s been there through the whole film as this cute lemon headed robot. But the problem is he doesn’t have any dialogue. He just uses the same pieces of dialogue from the character he’s saying. So he’s not exactly somebody that you can really get invested in as a character. OK. Peta Kudos to Alan Tudyk for just constantly booking geeks where he just has to come in and read like 3 lines. Quinny Yes. Speaker Peta Hope he makes a lot. Money for that. Dion He went he went to Julia. Quinny The person who I had a moment where I was watching, I was like, why do I know is that voice? Oh my God, it ******* it was Hank Azaria. Yes, yes. Yeah, he was great. Dion Perplexo. Quinny But sorry, what were? Dion You saying, Dan? I said. Said I like. That’s the character that Hank Azaria is like the magician kind of. It reminded me a lot of mystery men because it felt like the blue Raja. It was very close to that same sort of character. Yes. Yeah, yeah. Like a couple of those are fun. But yeah. Rest of them just felt very underutilized. And you know, it felt a little bit like Transformers, but at least I could tell where the faces were on these robots. Quinny This is the thing like this costs so much money for, you know, this the and there are shots in this that I can see where all the money went like there’s just robots and **** everywhere and explosions. And like super complicated robot builds like this is the kind of stuff that industrial light and magic could be like. **** you how many hours? Yeah, I get where the money went, but I don’t know why they spent it, because it didn’t feel like anything. You know all of the bad guys come flying in and they’ve got, you know. They’re a drone operator somewhere else, so there’s no real kind of danger to them or anything. Dion Yep. Quinny They just feel, yeah, everything felt really. Can can I? Dion Make a point about the production of this though. Quinny A minute. Speaker Mute. Dion Because originally you’ve just got to remember that this is kind of been trapped in a bit of hell and had a bit of production hell that went along with it because it was originally supposed to be Universal Pictures, theatrical release. And it was being filmed in 2022. It’s now 2025. That’s quite a long turn around for a thing, and it has gone from universal to Netflix. So it’s just interesting to know that there was, you know, they were kind of filming it. Were putting things. Michelle Yeo was supposed to be in it. All right. Peta Are you telling me after everything would start? That Bobby Brown was indeed a teenager when she filmed this role as a teenager. Dion Yes. Quinny Yeah, something I feel like a bit of * **** now. Dion Yeah. Well, I mean, I’m just trying to point that out to you, but also Kikua Khan was in there because Michelle Yeoh couldn’t keep going. She just. You should use my Co star from Everything Everywhere, all at once, so it’s really interesting to have a look at this film and go wow, this is kind of. Been running in a certain way for a long time and it’s taken a long time to get to. We are now. Quinny It’s funny because that’s almost exactly the same time frame that Mickey, 17, took. Dion Yeah, exactly. So it’s just kind of like there’s a few. You know, bits and pieces. But yeah, like it felt. Speaker Hmm. Dion Also, can shout out to Millie Bobby Brown’s makeup. Just seemed to be. No matter what she was doing in. You have this travel across America as a. ‘Cause I was like, wow, your lip gloss has just appeared every time perfectly. And your hair looks amazing no matter what you’re doing. Peta Yes. Also shout out to her like 90s, blonde grunge dude. Loved it. Quinny I’m faultless. Yeah. Yep, it’s. It was a powerful look. I want to shout out to Oasis for like one of the closing songs of this movie being Wonderwall. I was like *******. Really. OK. Dion Oh that. Me, that actually shat me while I was watching it going. Is that ******* Wonderwall? Quinny Yeah. I just. Dion I also like. Speaker It’s the 90s. Dion A little bit. A little bit of trivia for you. Cue just to give you some validation is that they showed the the trailer in the 2024 New York Comic Con and confirmed that the film would largely like. Diverge from the source material and that was met with a very negative response by fans who was hoping for a more true adaptation. No wonder this kind of hit Netflix and came out this way. Instead of having a a bigger release. Please. Quinny Yeah. I mean The thing is, if you’re going to adapt this, it’s not a $380 million action film. If you’re going to adapt it, it’s a $20 million art film that, you know, uses very clever filming techniques. And lots of matte paintings and **** like that, as opposed to gigantic CGI battles. Also, I thought it was bold, bold of them to use kashimi in the robots as their closing number. I was like, really? He just gonna use a song about fighting robot. OK, cool from the 90s. You know, I guess that’s on brand. Dion Casper was. Can you see the money on the screen? I’m like. I mean, it’s definitely there, but whether or not it’s worthwhile. Like you know. There’s there’s a bit like and this happens and this happens and this happens instead of. This happens because this because this because this, you know, it felt a lot like we have to get to this set piece or you know the reason to go like I mean the. Thing that I saw was that there was one shot. Where they were on a train that hitchhiked onto a train and they were just kind of doing that was the longest journey part that they kind of did. Quinny Oh yeah. Dion Traveling across America and the rest of it, you are always with. Other people and there was dialogue and there was other things going on. Felt very small. Like you said earlier, queen. Quinny So I. Dion Was just kind of like this whole thing was about. I can see the travelling across America. Like. Quinny Yeah, and this weird, yeah. Weird Wasteland America, but it didn’t feel like that. It felt like America was continuing in its traditional kind of suburban ways. And it just so happened that in the middle of it, there’s this. Dion A white sand America. Quinny Robot wasteland in the middle of the Mojave. Dion How did you actually, out of curiosity, how did you both feel about Stanley Tucci’s evil scientist character? Peta I mean, you know, you always love Stanley Tucci. Quinny Yeah. Peta It’s it’s, it’s it’s compulsory to love Stanley Tucci. Doing whatever he does. But I felt about that about the same as I felt about the rest of the film. Quinny Yeah, yeah, I found him to be vague and unconvincing, no. He. He was quite entertaining, but I didn’t give a **** about it and. I couldn’t get past the fact that he was so obviously like a Steve Jobs thing. I was like, yeah, we get it. We we get. Is a Steve Jobs reference OK? Cool. Peta Which again like after last week is funny because I I really enjoyed the obvious references last week and this week I was like. Quinny That’s because it feels earned in some ways. Peta So. It’s it’s a different kind of dystopia. Dion Well, I mean in that in that one, they’re knowing that they’re doing a knowing parody and this one was kind of like, oh, it’s this kind of thing. So play it like this a bit, you know, am I evil? Speaker Yeah. Dion Making a kids. Are we doing a thing like how we trying to be playing this? Quinny Yeah, yeah. Dion Hey, difficult. Quinny Very, very difficult. Peta No, not not for. Quinny I sent me. No, I I really would recommend if everybody feels so inclined. Go have a look at the. Find it’s 144 page art book. With narrative elements that go along with it. Go and look at. I think it’s a far more interesting concept. Speaker Yeah. Quinny You know, this is. Yeah, I can see why people at Comic Con. Dion Would be ****** sitting. Sit down in a nice, quiet afternoon, put some music on, you know, maybe make a cup of tea and just absorb the imagery on the pages and let your mind create. Fantastical stories behind it, you. Quinny Can put on the soundtrack that has been composed by Stalin Hogg himself. Speaker 4 Well, there you go. Quinny You know, he actually writes soundtracks. Speaker Cool. Quinny His books by by. Dion The book and by the soundtrack. Quinny Yes, yes, go on by. But don’t do it on Amazon because they’re the devil. Dion Yes. I mean, yes, there is a good. Yes, it’s not a part of a Mega franchise. Quinny Yeah, and. Dion I mean that. Yeah, it’s not a remake. Good, you know. Quinny Yeah, it’s an original concept and we should be applauding it more, but it’s not good. Dion I just. Speaker No. Dion Well, I mean it’s there was an original concept, but it just kind of got, you know, Hollywood fied. Like, oh, we’re just going to change and deviate from the source materials like. Oh. OK. Cool. Quinny Actually, that’s something I wanted to ask a beautiful listeners. What’s the film that deviated the hardest away from the source material like that? You want. Dion That was that was successful. Quinny No, not necessarily. I like you know, there are films that you go. That was nothing like what the original book or comic or whatever was. Dion I’m going to give it aliens. Speaker 4 But. Quinny As as in like the sequel. Dion Aliens. Quinny OK, I was thinking more. You know, if the way that Blade Runner is, not particularly similar to end to Android’s dream of electric sheep at all. Speaker Don’t. Dion But I mean aliens is a very is, I think, a successful extrapolation from the book Alien. By Ellen Foster. Quinny It was a film first. Dion Yeah, but then there was a book written about it. Peta OK, I can. Dion And that. Peta This I can see this going down at HOLS. Just going to stop at that. Dion Yep. Quinny Yes, started troopers grand. Perfect example. The book is kind of profash. The film is explicitly, amusingly anti fash. Dion Right then I’m going to say Mortal Kombat. 2 annihilation. Deviates so hard. Yeah. Peta Yes. Are you starting to feel like that was? Speaker I want. Peta Silly question to ask. Quinny Was but also I want. I want to hear from the I want to hear from our. I would really love for them to go. Hey, this is my favorite book and the film got it spectacularly wrong. Like you know, the characters had the same names, but they were completely wrong. Dion Oh, easy dragon. Oh my, yes, the live action Dragon Ball Z. You go. Quinny I’ll give you another one, Artemis fowl. Yeah, I listen to one of those books and I was like, that film is got nothing in common with those books at all. Many would say the first avatar, the Last Airbender. That one. Dion Oh yeah, the the chemolean 1. Quinny Yeah. Yep. Aragon. Yeah, absolutely. Dion Yeah. Quinny So yeah, I. I want to hear like send us an e-mail right as anything. Just want to hear from you. What are the ones that you know? You may have loved? Original concept or whatever, and then the film just completely. Their ****. Dion The Hobbit. Yeah. Speaking of losing. ****, we’re not back next week. No, we’re. We have a terrible scheduling conflict which is just going to preclude the the anticipatory 400th show, which you’re going to. To wait till April. Quinny Hmm. Dion Yay spoiler. Quinny You’re gonna have to deal with the anticip. Peta I hate you so much. Dion You’re going to have to do a quick spoiler. We will not be returning on April Fool’s Day, no matter what anyone says, because that’s an April first. Quinny Haha. Dion But we will be coming back for April, so we’re going to delay the 400th show till April. So, but we’re still open to ideas. If you’ve got any ideas for the 400 show. Hey, hey, shout out. Shout out. Us before we go for. Quinny Tell us what you want us to do for 400. Dion Or you can like you know you could. You could desperately say we really want to know what you thought of snow. What? Do that for the 400 show. No, maybe something a bit better. Quinny Does anyone need to go to the screening? Anyway. Yes, so thank you. Why not truecalling? Not indeed. Dion I mean, you know, we’ve got Minecraft coming actually this actually soon as is coming out. Speaker I know. Dion That’s a good one. That’s soon. Quinny Hmm. Dion And then the accountant too. Quinny Yes. What was the, what’s the Jason Statham one that showed up in our? Dion Oh, something else. The. That was the last one, but it’s like the bodyguard. Can’t remember. Quinny Yeah, yeah. Dion Something else? The Workman. We go. You. Yes, the Workman. Don’t. I want to. I kind of want to go and see that, but like, I feel like he’s getting to the point where it’s like. It’s like going to see Tommy Wiseau film now, or I would have Jason Straighten’s going to jump across the air and fire 2 guns at the same time. Yay there, he did it. When he’s got a growl at someone again. Quinny Yeah. Is he gonna do a a weird fight where he does lots of high kicks and on cleats or something like that? Dion Yep, Yep. Quinny What’s exciting you at the moment, Pete, anything exciting happening? Peta Well, I’m. I’m really having trouble working up any excitement at the moment. Hey was last week the last episode of Severance for this season. Quinny One more this week. Peta Really. Because it felt like I was like, oh, that feels like they just got to. Us there. Dion Just just. Peta Don’t say anything. Quinny Won’t. Dion Quinny Oh man, so much. Dion Get a build little up for fun. Quinny Yeah, I. So this this week is the the final episode and it’s a 75 minute long episode. Dion Nice. Quinny So yes, as Karina said and or season 2. Peta Yeah, interesting. Dion Oh yeah, I’ve got. I’ve got. I’m hanging out for those 3 episodes on April 23. Right Peter’s birthday. Should. Should be sitting there. Peta Happy birthday to me. Dion Quinny I didn’t do well. Dion All right, fine. Speaker Excellent. Quinny There’s a lot coming out in April. Actually, I started to have a look at it and I was like, hang on, what? Oh, that’s starting up in April. Starting up in. So yeah, there’s going to be like, I’m pretty sure Last of Us kicks back in, Doctor Who kicks back in a bunch of other stuff. So April was. Going to be very busy. Dion Good as. Saying we’re doing the Workman for our 400th show. Quinny Yes. No. Dion No, we shall not be doing that. Quinny Yes. All right, Smallville. That’s what we’re doing. Dion No, don’t. Don’t give him hope. Give him hope. Quinny He he meant severance. Dion Oh, OK, right. OK, fair. We must put Peter out of her. She’s got so many things to do and she’s she’s busy and quitting and I could not her on for the rest of the the evening till tomorrow, talking about ****. Speaker Yeah. Dion Films. Have a lovely week off. We’ll see you. In in April and staying like, stay tuned to for us to give you. Whatever social, social. Quinny We’ll tell. What’s happening? What’s coming there and everywhere? Thanks for hanging out tonight. Yeah, thank you, everybody. I don’t even think there’s anyone that we can go. So we’ll just say. Speaker Hey Sir. Quinny Oh, actually, you know, no, we can go ride Bajo. Go ride. Speaker 4 Alright. Dion Baja. Speaker 4 Do it. Peta Say goodbye anyway, bye.